Every movie collector remembers their first Criterion.
In this episode of The Physical Cut, Krloz sits down with Derick McDuff, host of the Underrated Movie Podcast, longtime Barnes & Noble bookseller, and WatchMojo contributor, to explore why the Criterion Collection has become one of the most respected names in physical media.
From working the legendary Barnes & Noble Criterion Sale to recommending hidden cinematic gems every day, Derick shares what it's really like helping collectors build their libraries, introducing newcomers to classic cinema, and discovering films that deserve far more attention.
Together, they discuss how physical media creates deeper connections with movies than streaming ever can, why film recommendations matter, and how Criterion continues to preserve cinema through outstanding restorations, special features, and collector editions.
Whether you're buying your very first Criterion release or have hundreds on your shelf, this conversation celebrates the joy of film discovery and the culture behind collecting.
In this episode:
- Why the Criterion Collection is so important
- Inside the Barnes & Noble Criterion Sale
- How to start collecting Criterion the right way
- Film recommendations for first-time Criterion buyers
- How social media influences movie collecting
- Physical media vs. streaming
- The value of special features and film preservation
- Why collectors still love browsing physical stores
- Underrated movies every film fan should discover
- Why owning movies still matters in the streaming era
We also dive into conversations about John Waters, David Lynch, Godzilla, The Red Shoes, The Princess Bride, Scream, Scream 2, Scream 3, The Elephant Man, and many more films that continue to shape film culture.
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00:00:03 --> 00:00:24 bad, but I do. I do need Parker. Welcome back
00:00:24 --> 00:00:26 everyone to a new episode of the physical cut
00:00:26 --> 00:00:28 where films live beyond the stream My name is
00:00:28 --> 00:00:32 Carlos and today I am joined here by Derek Macduff
00:00:32 --> 00:00:36 host of the underrated movie podcast How are
00:00:36 --> 00:00:40 you today Derek? I am doing well. I am Excited
00:00:40 --> 00:00:44 to be here and to be talking some physical media
00:00:44 --> 00:00:46 Today we're gonna have an interesting conversation
00:00:46 --> 00:00:50 because today I have what I consider one of the
00:00:50 --> 00:00:54 experts on criteria because your background is
00:00:54 --> 00:00:59 recommending people criterion you have Back when
00:00:59 --> 00:01:02 your expertise I would say because we kind of
00:01:02 --> 00:01:08 shared similar job position once but you have
00:01:08 --> 00:01:11 great knowledge when it comes to criterion if
00:01:11 --> 00:01:14 you would like to explain a little bit about
00:01:14 --> 00:01:16 your background when it comes to Criterion. Yeah,
00:01:16 --> 00:01:19 so as you mentioned, I host the Underrated Movie
00:01:19 --> 00:01:22 podcast where I talk about underrated movies
00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 and at least how Criterion started with the core
00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 idea of finding underseen gems. You know, I have
00:01:26 --> 00:01:28 that in common. But what you mentioned that we
00:01:28 --> 00:01:31 have in common is that my day job when I'm not
00:01:31 --> 00:01:34 being a podcaster is that I work at Barnes and
00:01:34 --> 00:01:37 Noble. And they are, of course, as you mentioned,
00:01:37 --> 00:01:41 doing the Criterion sale right now. So. You know,
00:01:41 --> 00:01:45 every time around this year, I am out there in
00:01:45 --> 00:01:47 the streets helping people find their criterion
00:01:47 --> 00:01:49 DVDs. So you mentioned about the underrated podcast.
00:01:50 --> 00:01:53 There's always something interesting about finding
00:01:53 --> 00:01:57 an underrated gem and underrated film. And your
00:01:57 --> 00:01:59 podcast focuses on that. I started listening
00:01:59 --> 00:02:02 to your podcast and I mentioned to you that there's
00:02:02 --> 00:02:05 some films that I heard of that I never seen.
00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 Can you give me a brief introduction on What
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 your podcast focuses on what kind of movie do
00:02:11 --> 00:02:15 you like hunting for and what's like the excitement
00:02:15 --> 00:02:18 of discovering? Something that is so underrated.
00:02:18 --> 00:02:21 Yeah, I mean, like I said, I love finding movies
00:02:21 --> 00:02:24 that need champions The pitch line is always
00:02:24 --> 00:02:26 these that are underrated underappreciated under
00:02:26 --> 00:02:28 the radar So it could be really any of those
00:02:28 --> 00:02:30 things where it could be a movie that maybe a
00:02:30 --> 00:02:32 lot of people know about but it got trashed by
00:02:32 --> 00:02:35 critics at the time or didn't do well a box office
00:02:35 --> 00:02:38 or it could be something that is just an unseen
00:02:38 --> 00:02:42 gem. And I love finding these movies that for
00:02:42 --> 00:02:45 whatever reason didn't get the respect they deserve.
00:02:45 --> 00:02:48 The first movie I ever covered on that show was
00:02:48 --> 00:02:51 Speed Racer, which is a movie that got absolutely
00:02:51 --> 00:02:53 trashed at the time. But I was just like, this
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 is a masterpiece from day one. I was like, this
00:02:55 --> 00:02:58 is such a good movie. And I have always been
00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 out there in telling people, hey, you've got
00:03:00 --> 00:03:03 to watch this movie. And that movie has really,
00:03:03 --> 00:03:07 even since I started the show in 2019, It's had
00:03:07 --> 00:03:09 such a resurgence and it's been so cool to see
00:03:09 --> 00:03:12 people really come around to this great movie
00:03:12 --> 00:03:14 and start to give it to its respect. And that's
00:03:14 --> 00:03:16 what I aim to do with like all of the movies
00:03:16 --> 00:03:19 that I cover on Underrated is to champion these
00:03:19 --> 00:03:22 movies that for whatever reason aren't getting
00:03:22 --> 00:03:25 that respect and have an outlet to talk about
00:03:25 --> 00:03:27 why they're actually pretty great a lot of the
00:03:27 --> 00:03:31 time. When I downloaded the podcast, I saw just
00:03:31 --> 00:03:34 like a few times because I was on the train and
00:03:34 --> 00:03:38 I just recently met you. And we started, we started
00:03:38 --> 00:03:39 talking about your podcast and that's how we
00:03:39 --> 00:03:43 ended up here talking today. But then when I
00:03:43 --> 00:03:46 had some signal, a bunch of other titles just
00:03:46 --> 00:03:48 downloaded, I was like, oh, well, like he's really
00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 been digging deep for a while now. So I was really
00:03:51 --> 00:03:53 surprised by that from your point of view, obviously
00:03:53 --> 00:03:58 from your podcast. What have you learned from
00:03:58 --> 00:04:00 talking about movies consistently? Cause you
00:04:00 --> 00:04:02 don't just do it on your day job, but now you're
00:04:02 --> 00:04:06 doing it also on your podcast. Yeah. So. I try
00:04:06 --> 00:04:09 to be as knowledgeable about film as I can and
00:04:09 --> 00:04:12 a big way to do that is watching as much stuff
00:04:12 --> 00:04:14 as possible and watching things that are a little
00:04:14 --> 00:04:16 bit more obscure a lot of the time, things that
00:04:16 --> 00:04:19 work for the podcast, not just watching The Godfather
00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 and Lord of the Rings, whatever the biggest movies
00:04:21 --> 00:04:23 are, but getting a little bit deeper and watching
00:04:23 --> 00:04:27 these deep cuts. And I think that you do learn
00:04:27 --> 00:04:31 a lot about filmmaking and the craft by watching
00:04:31 --> 00:04:34 things that are not from necessarily the masters,
00:04:34 --> 00:04:37 things that they might be sometimes rough around
00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 the edges but they might be a little bit more
00:04:40 --> 00:04:43 real sometimes and I also try to like as much
00:04:43 --> 00:04:45 as I can learn about movies through other means
00:04:45 --> 00:04:48 I read a lot of books on film I think one of
00:04:48 --> 00:04:51 my favorite books on that I've ever read I'll
00:04:51 --> 00:04:53 give you two two really good books on film if
00:04:53 --> 00:04:56 people are looking to learn more about film is
00:04:56 --> 00:04:58 In the Blink of an Eye by Walter Murch That is,
00:04:58 --> 00:05:00 he's a film editor. He directed one movie ever,
00:05:01 --> 00:05:02 Return to Oz, which is a movie that I covered
00:05:02 --> 00:05:05 on my show, and watching that movie, that was
00:05:05 --> 00:05:07 a lot of fun, learning a lot about film because
00:05:07 --> 00:05:10 just the cinematography in that movie is just...
00:05:10 --> 00:05:12 Fascinating it's just so crazy that they were
00:05:12 --> 00:05:14 able to shoot that thing in the 80s and the other
00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 book that I want to recommend is from Screenwriter
00:05:17 --> 00:05:19 William Goldman called adventures in the screen
00:05:19 --> 00:05:22 trade He's the screenwriter of movies like which
00:05:22 --> 00:05:24 casting of the Sundance kid and the princess
00:05:24 --> 00:05:26 bride all the presidents men all these other
00:05:26 --> 00:05:29 masterpieces and That is just a really fascinating
00:05:29 --> 00:05:32 look at Hollywood. It's written like a novel.
00:05:32 --> 00:05:35 He was a novelist originally But it's also just
00:05:35 --> 00:05:39 teaches you about Screenwriting and the the way
00:05:39 --> 00:05:42 it works So I definitely recommend if anybody's
00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 looking to know more about movies a watch movies
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 would be use other resources like that There's
00:05:47 --> 00:05:50 plenty of incredible video essays on YouTube
00:05:50 --> 00:05:53 that will teach you about movies as well So I
00:05:53 --> 00:05:56 feel like learning about the craft in when it
00:05:56 --> 00:05:58 comes to film is something that I've really picked
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 up on Doing this show all the book. I'm not too
00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 sure if that's the one that has like the entire
00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 script A Butch Cassidy in it. Yes, that is the
00:06:07 --> 00:06:10 one. Yeah, it's right here under my desk. I know
00:06:10 --> 00:06:12 that book. It's actually a pretty good book.
00:06:12 --> 00:06:14 I started reading that book. It's a pretty interesting
00:06:14 --> 00:06:16 book. I love the way that it's written. I also
00:06:16 --> 00:06:19 love Stephen King's Unwriting. If you're a horror
00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 fan, definitely Unwriting is a good one. But
00:06:22 --> 00:06:25 this is not your first rodeo with recommending
00:06:25 --> 00:06:28 films to people or helping people discover films
00:06:28 --> 00:06:31 because at this point we're not. that we're not
00:06:31 --> 00:06:34 shoving the films that we're not helping you
00:06:34 --> 00:06:36 discover films especially if you're new not just
00:06:36 --> 00:06:39 to criterion but you know into film watching
00:06:39 --> 00:06:43 or the film culture but you your experience also
00:06:43 --> 00:06:49 has uh mojo behind it you have a little mojo
00:06:49 --> 00:06:51 in your background so can you tell me a little
00:06:51 --> 00:06:55 bit about that yeah yeah so i i also write for
00:06:55 --> 00:06:57 uh freelance for watch mojo i've been doing that
00:06:57 --> 00:06:59 for Almost a decade now. There's a lot of things
00:06:59 --> 00:07:02 I write for about them But usually it's film
00:07:02 --> 00:07:05 subjects and so people are familiar watch mojo.
00:07:05 --> 00:07:09 We do top 10 lists so I have a lot of fun writing
00:07:09 --> 00:07:12 about those and researching those and Essentially
00:07:12 --> 00:07:15 the process with that is I will come up with
00:07:15 --> 00:07:17 my list i will send it like it could be let's
00:07:17 --> 00:07:19 say one i wrote was top 10 sword fights in film
00:07:19 --> 00:07:22 and so i thought about all my great the greatest
00:07:22 --> 00:07:24 sword fights i've looked up similar lists i did
00:07:24 --> 00:07:27 a lot of research re -watched some stuff re -watched
00:07:27 --> 00:07:30 all the scenes and then collaborated with the
00:07:30 --> 00:07:33 the people at the company and worked together
00:07:33 --> 00:07:36 to make a top 10 list of the greatest sword fights
00:07:36 --> 00:07:40 and that was so cool because i'm a big fan of
00:07:40 --> 00:07:43 that kind of Cinematic storytelling that will
00:07:43 --> 00:07:46 the way that you can take two characters and
00:07:46 --> 00:07:49 have them just have a fight But it will teach
00:07:49 --> 00:07:51 you just these physical actions will teach you
00:07:51 --> 00:07:53 about who their characters are like a great example
00:07:53 --> 00:07:56 is Pirates of the Caribbean the first one right?
00:07:56 --> 00:07:59 I love recommending that movie because that is
00:07:59 --> 00:08:03 a movie where there is so much done Just in with
00:08:03 --> 00:08:05 not necessarily words or dialogue But just the
00:08:05 --> 00:08:07 way that characters move characters react to
00:08:07 --> 00:08:10 one another the way characters will plan something
00:08:10 --> 00:08:13 out will think about something and that sword
00:08:13 --> 00:08:15 fight at the beginning of the movie between Jack
00:08:15 --> 00:08:17 Sparrow and Will Turner tells you everything
00:08:17 --> 00:08:19 you need to know about these two people and so
00:08:19 --> 00:08:22 getting to make these lists where you take all
00:08:22 --> 00:08:24 this stuff from film and might recommend it might
00:08:24 --> 00:08:27 be like a top 10 movies or might be top 10 scenes
00:08:27 --> 00:08:29 or genres or something like that getting to write
00:08:29 --> 00:08:33 these lists has been so much fun and so rewarding
00:08:33 --> 00:08:35 because and sometimes it's stuff you wouldn't
00:08:35 --> 00:08:38 expect on that list I had the sword fight at
00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 the end of Shanghai nights which is not I think
00:08:40 --> 00:08:42 typically thought of as this great sword fight
00:08:42 --> 00:08:44 from cinema but I think it's great it really
00:08:44 --> 00:08:49 is this kind of piece of emotional this emotional
00:08:49 --> 00:08:51 climax of the movie will also be a great action
00:08:51 --> 00:08:54 scene seeing Jackie Chan in the sword fight is
00:08:54 --> 00:08:55 also very cool something you don't typically
00:08:55 --> 00:08:58 associate with him he's usually doing more martial
00:08:58 --> 00:09:02 arts based stuff so Getting to do something that
00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 is a little bit more off the beaten track and
00:09:04 --> 00:09:05 recommend something like that is always a blast.
00:09:06 --> 00:09:08 I mean, I'm hoping that Confident Tiger Hidden
00:09:08 --> 00:09:11 Dragon is on that top 10. It was. It was indeed.
00:09:11 --> 00:09:13 Oh, there we go. See, it has to be. It has to
00:09:13 --> 00:09:18 be. But we always see the list of 10 ways
00:09:18 --> 00:09:20 to woo your man, but... Which by the way, I never
00:09:20 --> 00:09:22 get through just because like there's so many
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 ads on those. I do like the Mojo ones. They're
00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 easier to get through. But why do you think these
00:09:28 --> 00:09:30 lists are so popular? At least like these movie
00:09:30 --> 00:09:33 lists. I know me personally, I love a good list.
00:09:33 --> 00:09:35 That's why I write for WatchMojo. I think maybe
00:09:35 --> 00:09:37 part of it for me at least is there's a little
00:09:37 --> 00:09:39 bit of like neural spice of having like, oh,
00:09:39 --> 00:09:41 I love the rank things, you know? But it's also,
00:09:41 --> 00:09:43 I think just, it's a really good way, like you
00:09:43 --> 00:09:45 said, to recommend stuff. It's a good way to
00:09:45 --> 00:09:47 take these things that you might want to tell
00:09:47 --> 00:09:49 people to like... be interested or watch people
00:09:49 --> 00:09:51 look at them for recommendations. But I think
00:09:51 --> 00:09:54 people also find a little bit of validation in
00:09:54 --> 00:09:57 seeing something that they like being ranked
00:09:57 --> 00:10:00 high up. They can be like, oh wow, this is my
00:10:00 --> 00:10:01 favorite sword fight. Like you would scratch
00:10:01 --> 00:10:02 your tiger head and drag. You're like, okay.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:04 You would say you watch the list, you see it
00:10:04 --> 00:10:07 coming up. You're like, very good. Okay. My favorite
00:10:07 --> 00:10:10 is on the list. And then you get to hear, you
00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 know, whatever, you know, I or whoever is making
00:10:12 --> 00:10:14 the list has to say about it. And then you might
00:10:14 --> 00:10:16 be like, okay, well, this is my favorite, would
00:10:16 --> 00:10:18 beat it. And why did it beat it? I'm really curious
00:10:18 --> 00:10:20 to hear about that. So I think that list making,
00:10:20 --> 00:10:23 it's also a way to just talk about these different
00:10:23 --> 00:10:26 aspects of film. And so it's on one level, it's
00:10:26 --> 00:10:28 like, okay, here's like just 10 movies, but you're
00:10:28 --> 00:10:30 also looking into, well, why does this sword
00:10:30 --> 00:10:33 fight work in this scene? Why does this one work
00:10:33 --> 00:10:35 in this scene? What is this telling you? Something
00:10:35 --> 00:10:36 that the other sword fight wasn't telling. So
00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 it's also giving you different aspects of why
00:10:39 --> 00:10:42 things work. Just 10, it's giving you essentially
00:10:42 --> 00:10:44 like if it's a top 10 list, it's giving you 10
00:10:44 --> 00:10:46 different things that you can take away from
00:10:46 --> 00:10:50 the movie. Well, and again, this does have, does
00:10:50 --> 00:10:52 help. Cause my other question, you kind of answered
00:10:52 --> 00:10:55 it a little bit. There was. Do these rankings
00:10:55 --> 00:10:59 actually help other people discover films? I
00:10:59 --> 00:11:03 think that they really do. I think that if you
00:11:03 --> 00:11:05 listen to a top 10 list, you only know five of
00:11:05 --> 00:11:06 them. You're like, okay, well, what are those
00:11:06 --> 00:11:08 other five that they were talking about? This
00:11:08 --> 00:11:09 might be one I've never heard of before. This
00:11:09 --> 00:11:12 might be one that I've always kind of thought,
00:11:12 --> 00:11:14 oh, maybe I'll watch it someday. Oh, but now
00:11:14 --> 00:11:16 they recommended it here on this top 10 list.
00:11:16 --> 00:11:18 It's number three. It must be pretty good. No,
00:11:18 --> 00:11:20 I agree. There's a few ranking videos at least
00:11:20 --> 00:11:22 on YouTube that I watch. One of the most famous
00:11:22 --> 00:11:25 that I watch are these on YouTube. at least for
00:11:25 --> 00:11:27 us over here in film, especially though the horror
00:11:27 --> 00:11:30 culture is cobweb channel. He does some very
00:11:30 --> 00:11:34 good top 10s, top 20s, top 30s, but I do enjoy
00:11:34 --> 00:11:37 the vibe. I do enjoy a lot of his recommendations.
00:11:38 --> 00:11:40 As a matter of fact, sometimes when I'm choosing
00:11:40 --> 00:11:44 films or when I'm browsing films and stores,
00:11:44 --> 00:11:46 I see a film that he recommended. I'm like, I
00:11:46 --> 00:11:49 just grab it. I'm not saying he has the last
00:11:49 --> 00:11:51 say on what's good, what's not, but it's something
00:11:51 --> 00:11:54 I did not know about. And he does like the little
00:11:54 --> 00:11:56 trailers of the films. So it kind of helps you
00:11:56 --> 00:11:59 visually. And the same thing that you mentioned,
00:11:59 --> 00:12:02 you do these sort of fights that people know
00:12:02 --> 00:12:06 about, or you do this top 10 uncertain situation
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 here, and people see that. People discover it
00:12:09 --> 00:12:12 also visually, which, you know, that's what films
00:12:12 --> 00:12:14 are. You're meant to discover them visually.
00:12:15 --> 00:12:18 And I feel like I've, at least I've discovered.
00:12:18 --> 00:12:20 a lot of films that way, especially when it comes
00:12:20 --> 00:12:23 to horror. I have discovered a lot of films that
00:12:23 --> 00:12:28 way. You have a multiple variety of audience.
00:12:28 --> 00:12:30 How do you recommend to different audiences?
00:12:31 --> 00:12:34 How does your brain think and adjust who you're
00:12:34 --> 00:12:37 talking to? Yeah, well, I mean, for me, I love
00:12:37 --> 00:12:40 pretty much like I think any genre can work as
00:12:40 --> 00:12:42 long as it's made well. And I know that people
00:12:42 --> 00:12:46 have their specific tastes. And so I try to be
00:12:46 --> 00:12:49 as knowledgeable about every kind of genre. as
00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 possible. I didn't get into horror until later
00:12:51 --> 00:12:53 in life, but now I've gotten a lot more into
00:12:53 --> 00:12:57 it and I can talk more intelligently about the
00:12:57 --> 00:13:00 conventions and the tropes of horror films. So
00:13:00 --> 00:13:04 I think when it comes to finding top tens, finding
00:13:04 --> 00:13:08 reviews, people will find someone that they tend
00:13:08 --> 00:13:11 to vibe with, that they tend to agree with, that
00:13:11 --> 00:13:13 they at least understand they're on the same
00:13:13 --> 00:13:17 wavelength as, and just kind of what regardless
00:13:17 --> 00:13:19 of genre will go off of their recommendations
00:13:19 --> 00:13:21 a lot of the time and so I think that's been
00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 the way with myself and film critics that I've
00:13:24 --> 00:13:27 looked up to I hope that when people listen to
00:13:27 --> 00:13:31 underrated they can hear my recommendations and
00:13:31 --> 00:13:33 know that I'm a knowledgeable good source on
00:13:33 --> 00:13:35 these things and if I'm not talking about it
00:13:35 --> 00:13:38 for example I people who listen to my show who
00:13:38 --> 00:13:42 they never like horror stuff right but they still
00:13:42 --> 00:13:44 might listen to my episode on horror because
00:13:44 --> 00:13:47 they're like okay well This is an interesting
00:13:47 --> 00:13:49 take. I kind of want to still hear about this
00:13:49 --> 00:13:52 movie without having watched it. There is, I
00:13:52 --> 00:13:54 think, an entire podcast that actually has that
00:13:54 --> 00:13:56 premise. I think it's called Too Scary Didn't
00:13:56 --> 00:13:59 Watch, where they review horror films for people
00:13:59 --> 00:14:02 who are too scared to watch horror films. So
00:14:02 --> 00:14:05 I think that as long as you're vibing with somebody
00:14:05 --> 00:14:07 and you're getting on their level and able to
00:14:07 --> 00:14:09 talk about films in a way they understand and
00:14:09 --> 00:14:11 appreciate, it doesn't have to be a genre that
00:14:11 --> 00:14:14 they will always relate to and being diverse
00:14:14 --> 00:14:17 to. I think that I love talking about all kinds
00:14:17 --> 00:14:19 of different films, so I will cover all kinds
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 of different films on my show. There is a difference
00:14:22 --> 00:14:25 between recommending something that the person,
00:14:26 --> 00:14:28 because for example, you might think that Citizen
00:14:28 --> 00:14:32 Kane is a great film, but the person that you
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 recommended that to might not really appreciate
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 that film. So how do you go about recommending?
00:14:37 --> 00:14:41 great song to someone whatever great film you
00:14:41 --> 00:14:44 think is and Recommending something that you
00:14:44 --> 00:14:47 think they might actually enjoy yeah, I think
00:14:47 --> 00:14:49 that's a good question because there's I think
00:14:49 --> 00:14:52 there's a real big difference between a good
00:14:52 --> 00:14:55 film and a film that is recommendable or a bad
00:14:55 --> 00:14:57 film and when I wouldn't recommend because there's
00:14:57 --> 00:14:59 plenty of really great films that I might not
00:14:59 --> 00:15:02 recommend to everybody. And that's something
00:15:02 --> 00:15:04 that I will often bring on my podcast. It's almost
00:15:04 --> 00:15:06 like the thing of like, if you you reckon this
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 is a great movie, but you would recommend it
00:15:08 --> 00:15:10 to your parents, there's that thing of like,
00:15:10 --> 00:15:12 it's it's a different kind of thing. And we can
00:15:12 --> 00:15:14 still talk about it can still be good. And sometimes
00:15:14 --> 00:15:16 movies might be less good. But I'm like, this
00:15:16 --> 00:15:18 is going to be very palatable, palatable. This
00:15:18 --> 00:15:20 is a good movie for everyone to watch. This is
00:15:20 --> 00:15:23 something I can. easily recommend. So I can,
00:15:23 --> 00:15:25 and I will often talk about that on my show where
00:15:25 --> 00:15:26 it's like, okay, yeah, this is a good movie,
00:15:26 --> 00:15:28 but it might not be for everybody. I'll mention
00:15:28 --> 00:15:30 that. Or like, I don't know if this one worked
00:15:30 --> 00:15:32 for me, but it might work better for my guests.
00:15:32 --> 00:15:34 And we can talk about what aspects of it work,
00:15:34 --> 00:15:36 what didn't and why someone might like it or
00:15:36 --> 00:15:39 might not like it. Like we said before, reclendations
00:15:39 --> 00:15:43 for you don't just happen online. And like we
00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 spoke at the beginning, you have your experience,
00:15:46 --> 00:15:48 your day job, as well as working at Barnes and
00:15:48 --> 00:15:51 Noble, which is a whole different beast. And
00:15:51 --> 00:15:55 I should know how now during this time because
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 this is why we kind of got together to do this.
00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 During this time, it kind of sometimes looks
00:16:01 --> 00:16:04 like the first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan
00:16:04 --> 00:16:08 when that clock hits midnight and the next day.
00:16:08 --> 00:16:10 Cause I used to work on Fifth Avenue. The next
00:16:10 --> 00:16:13 thing you have a line of people just lining up,
00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 but you know, they're not here for the next Stephen
00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 King book or the next, what's his name? Pops
00:16:17 --> 00:16:20 up a book every day. They're here because the
00:16:20 --> 00:16:24 Criterion sale started. What is it like? Cause
00:16:24 --> 00:16:27 I know what it is, but for our listeners, certainly
00:16:27 --> 00:16:29 those who dare to go on the first day of the
00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 sale, how was it like to work at Boston Noble
00:16:32 --> 00:16:35 doing the Criterion sale? Oh, it is absolutely
00:16:35 --> 00:16:37 nuts. The first thing to say in front of Ryan
00:16:37 --> 00:16:39 is a good way to describe it. I've done a few
00:16:39 --> 00:16:43 of these now, and... just the hordes of people
00:16:43 --> 00:16:46 that come in it's just it's all the movie fans
00:16:46 --> 00:16:49 to use a somewhat derogatory term all the movie
00:16:49 --> 00:16:53 bros coming in trying to get the 4k of whatever
00:16:53 --> 00:16:55 niche thing that they love it's a bit of nuts
00:16:55 --> 00:16:58 you're always we're getting online orders constantly
00:16:58 --> 00:16:59 so we're always kind of like running out like
00:16:59 --> 00:17:02 making sure okay let me grab this and and be
00:17:02 --> 00:17:04 telling all the the books always make sure you
00:17:04 --> 00:17:06 grab the 4k not the not the blu -ray because
00:17:06 --> 00:17:08 they have the same cover and and if you get the
00:17:08 --> 00:17:11 wrong one these these film will be very upset,
00:17:11 --> 00:17:14 rightfully so. It's a lot of just kind of batten
00:17:14 --> 00:17:17 down the hatches. This year, it was interesting
00:17:17 --> 00:17:21 because I closed the night before the sale. So
00:17:21 --> 00:17:22 I was the one who was setting everything up,
00:17:23 --> 00:17:25 putting up all the signage, putting up multiple
00:17:25 --> 00:17:27 displays for it, because we just had so much
00:17:27 --> 00:17:30 stuff in preparation for it. And then by the
00:17:30 --> 00:17:32 time I came in the next day, I was closing again.
00:17:32 --> 00:17:35 So I'd missed the first rush of everything. And
00:17:35 --> 00:17:38 it was, it was so completely, I'd say at least
00:17:38 --> 00:17:40 like a third of the stuff was gone from the stuff
00:17:40 --> 00:17:41 that I had set up the night before. So it was
00:17:41 --> 00:17:44 absolutely luck. People love, love, love this
00:17:44 --> 00:17:47 sale and physical media hunters love criteria
00:17:47 --> 00:17:49 and discs. This is like, and I hear people all
00:17:49 --> 00:17:51 the time talking about like how like they've
00:17:51 --> 00:17:52 marked their calendars. They've been counting
00:17:52 --> 00:17:54 down the days. They always know when it's about
00:17:54 --> 00:17:56 they're like, okay, is it start? They don't make
00:17:56 --> 00:17:58 the official announcement until right when it
00:17:58 --> 00:18:00 happens. Well, like is it happening soon? So
00:18:00 --> 00:18:04 it gets wild. I've been. In that situation a
00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 couple of times, my expertise wasn't the film
00:18:07 --> 00:18:10 section, but I did work some mornings of the
00:18:10 --> 00:18:13 sale starting. And I'm telling you, I would pick
00:18:13 --> 00:18:16 up a 6 a .m. shift and by 6 20, there would be
00:18:16 --> 00:18:19 already a line of people standing right outside
00:18:19 --> 00:18:22 and we didn't open till nine. So we kind of knew
00:18:22 --> 00:18:25 what was expected already. And sometimes it would
00:18:25 --> 00:18:29 have some of us go. upstairs to just help out
00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 because we only have one person in the movie
00:18:31 --> 00:18:34 section just to like help out to keep or not
00:18:34 --> 00:18:39 just organizing but stocking. It was fun. I ironically
00:18:39 --> 00:18:42 when I used to work there I wasn't a big criterion
00:18:42 --> 00:18:47 collector. I had some criterions. I think Dr.
00:18:47 --> 00:18:49 Strangelove was probably one of the first ones
00:18:49 --> 00:18:52 I bought. but I also bought the special edition
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 that Criterion did of Night of the Living Dead
00:18:55 --> 00:18:58 and that was like probably years later after
00:18:58 --> 00:19:00 it came out because or a year later actually
00:19:00 --> 00:19:02 I think it was because it had a ticket inside
00:19:02 --> 00:19:05 for the re -release I believe it was the 50th
00:19:05 --> 00:19:08 anniversary and it had a ticket for free showing.
00:19:09 --> 00:19:11 And I did not know all that was in there because
00:19:11 --> 00:19:13 I had not opened it. So by the time I opened
00:19:13 --> 00:19:16 it, the anniversary was already done. The screening
00:19:16 --> 00:19:19 had already passed. And it's a great collector's
00:19:19 --> 00:19:21 item. It's actually a pretty big box. And I've
00:19:21 --> 00:19:24 shown it a couple of times on Instagram. It's
00:19:24 --> 00:19:26 a pretty good big box. It comes with posters,
00:19:27 --> 00:19:32 a massive book. Honestly, if anybody is... A
00:19:32 --> 00:19:34 fan, not just a criterion, but of Night of the
00:19:34 --> 00:19:36 Living Dead, that is probably one of the best
00:19:36 --> 00:19:40 editions. And I believe it's a 4K, but it's a
00:19:40 --> 00:19:43 little broken because it's so heavy. It's a little
00:19:43 --> 00:19:45 torn, but I would still never part with that.
00:19:46 --> 00:19:49 But going back to the sale, why do you think
00:19:49 --> 00:19:52 this has become such an event, especially for
00:19:52 --> 00:19:55 collectors? Yeah, I think part of it is that
00:19:55 --> 00:19:58 criterion discs are so expensive for the the
00:19:58 --> 00:20:00 standard price for like a blu -ray I think is
00:20:00 --> 00:20:05 40 bucks for a 4k. It's 50 bucks So I think that
00:20:05 --> 00:20:07 is definitely part of it, but I think it also
00:20:07 --> 00:20:11 has become like a thing of like Crate it's it's
00:20:11 --> 00:20:14 become like a not virtual signaling is in the
00:20:14 --> 00:20:16 right word But it's become a way to be like I'm
00:20:16 --> 00:20:18 a film. I'm a film buff. I care about movies.
00:20:19 --> 00:20:21 I care about physical media I know you've talked
00:20:21 --> 00:20:23 about in your show physical media is becoming
00:20:23 --> 00:20:25 more and more important especially as companies
00:20:25 --> 00:20:29 are taking away options to do that so and they
00:20:29 --> 00:20:32 always are such incredible like you spoke so
00:20:32 --> 00:20:35 so beautifully about how much that your disc
00:20:35 --> 00:20:37 means to you how much that set means to you because
00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 these are actually put together things they always
00:20:40 --> 00:20:42 look so cool and so good one of the first criterions
00:20:42 --> 00:20:45 that I ever bought It was during the sale was
00:20:45 --> 00:20:48 for a Princess Bride and I have an old Princess
00:20:48 --> 00:20:50 Bride DVD. It's still the same movie, right?
00:20:50 --> 00:20:53 But there's so many cool things that come in
00:20:53 --> 00:20:55 the box. Like there's all these great physical
00:20:55 --> 00:20:58 things. They always look so good. It's you can
00:20:58 --> 00:21:01 build your collection up and then also they come
00:21:01 --> 00:21:03 with such incredible features, right? They come
00:21:03 --> 00:21:06 with all this. Hours and hours of behind -the
00:21:06 --> 00:21:08 -scenes stuff all these incredible tidbits that
00:21:08 --> 00:21:10 you would never get like I'm a big fan of the
00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 blank check podcast and right now they're going
00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 through Andrew Stanton and There's the WALL -E
00:21:15 --> 00:21:18 criterion and when they cover the WALL -E episode
00:21:18 --> 00:21:20 Griffin one of the hosts the show was talking
00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 about like all of this stuff that he gleamed
00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 from all these behind the footage Scenes things
00:21:24 --> 00:21:27 footages from the criterion discs. So if you
00:21:27 --> 00:21:30 are really passionate about a specific movie
00:21:30 --> 00:21:33 I think that it it will tell you so much about
00:21:33 --> 00:21:37 it and It's a way cool way to like be like, okay,
00:21:37 --> 00:21:39 cool. I have this one. I have for Princess Bride.
00:21:39 --> 00:21:41 I have the elephant man. I have whatever and
00:21:41 --> 00:21:43 someone else might be like, okay, cool. Like
00:21:43 --> 00:21:44 I have this movie. I have this movie. And I think
00:21:44 --> 00:21:47 that's also why the Criterion Closet is so popular
00:21:47 --> 00:21:49 is because you get to see these actors, directors,
00:21:50 --> 00:21:52 whoever it might be go in and it's almost like
00:21:52 --> 00:21:54 the list making a thing where they're like pulling
00:21:54 --> 00:21:55 out movies and like, oh, I love this movie. This
00:21:55 --> 00:21:57 movie works because of this reason. Oh, here's
00:21:57 --> 00:21:59 this great Fellini movie. Here's the red shoes.
00:21:59 --> 00:22:01 It changed the way I watch it. And so you're
00:22:01 --> 00:22:04 getting recommendations, you're getting all this
00:22:04 --> 00:22:06 really cool behind the scenes info and you're
00:22:06 --> 00:22:09 getting to be part of a club too. I'm obsessed
00:22:09 --> 00:22:11 with watching the criterion class of videos.
00:22:11 --> 00:22:14 I'm just obsessed with them. And I also agree
00:22:14 --> 00:22:20 with you because if you love a director and last
00:22:20 --> 00:22:24 week on the last episode of the criterion recommendation
00:22:24 --> 00:22:27 that I did at the beginning of this sale, I did
00:22:27 --> 00:22:30 mentioned that I love John Waters and the fact
00:22:30 --> 00:22:33 that John Waters has been coming into the Criterion
00:22:33 --> 00:22:35 class, I mean, not Criterion class, Criterion
00:22:35 --> 00:22:37 collection. He did a Criterion interview, one
00:22:37 --> 00:22:40 of those sit down interviews that they do. That's
00:22:40 --> 00:22:46 on YouTube. And I was obsessed because, you know,
00:22:46 --> 00:22:48 he, and I don't want to disrespect any other
00:22:48 --> 00:22:52 director, but we kind of have seen some, and
00:22:52 --> 00:22:55 I know this is a tangent here. I know we've seen
00:22:55 --> 00:22:59 some new directors that I appreciate because
00:22:59 --> 00:23:02 they kind of have taken that John Waters route,
00:23:02 --> 00:23:04 which is like, well, this is a budget that I
00:23:04 --> 00:23:07 have. We got to make a masterpiece, what I consider
00:23:07 --> 00:23:11 a masterpiece, with this budget. And seeing Hairspray,
00:23:11 --> 00:23:14 seeing Desperate Living come into the Criterion
00:23:14 --> 00:23:17 Closet, it just gives me some hope that later
00:23:17 --> 00:23:21 on there will be a box set of John Waters. But
00:23:21 --> 00:23:23 that box set has to include Parker, because again,
00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 I am going to die in that soap box. I need Parker.
00:23:26 --> 00:23:30 I need Pecker. That sounds very bad, but I do.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:34 I do need Pecker. But it is such a good film.
00:23:34 --> 00:23:38 I know John Waters growing up, that I knew of
00:23:38 --> 00:23:40 Hairspray. Everybody knows The Bug Dress. And
00:23:40 --> 00:23:42 there was other films that you're not allowed
00:23:42 --> 00:23:45 to watch, but my mother let me watch anyway.
00:23:45 --> 00:23:48 That's how I discovered Eyes Wide Shut. But there's,
00:23:48 --> 00:23:52 when I saw Pecker and I discovered that was John
00:23:52 --> 00:23:55 Waters, I was like, wait. I actually do like
00:23:55 --> 00:23:59 this guy so I went back in his filmography and
00:23:59 --> 00:24:02 I started discovering other films and the way
00:24:02 --> 00:24:04 that he talks about them and not just of his
00:24:04 --> 00:24:07 films but everybody else's films there's a level
00:24:07 --> 00:24:11 of respect whether it's a masterpiece or just
00:24:11 --> 00:24:14 some trash he always finds something good and
00:24:14 --> 00:24:17 I always tell people I don't really hate a film
00:24:17 --> 00:24:20 I might not like it But if it's your favorite
00:24:20 --> 00:24:22 film, I'm not gonna hate on it just because I
00:24:22 --> 00:24:25 don't like it. I keep saying I don't really like
00:24:25 --> 00:24:27 Citizen Kane. And I might lose another listener.
00:24:28 --> 00:24:30 And that's totally fine. Because the only good
00:24:30 --> 00:24:34 shot in Citizen Kane is the window shot. I like
00:24:34 --> 00:24:37 Barry Lyndon. Stanley Kubrick is one of my favorite
00:24:37 --> 00:24:40 directors. Ah, favorite directors. But do I love
00:24:40 --> 00:24:44 Barry Lyndon? God no. It's not that it's an awful
00:24:44 --> 00:24:48 film, but besides every... every scene is like
00:24:48 --> 00:24:51 a painting can you give me another argument besides
00:24:51 --> 00:24:53 that one because everybody gives you the same
00:24:53 --> 00:24:56 one now can you give me another argument now
00:24:56 --> 00:24:58 if you want to talk eyes wide shut we'll go there
00:24:58 --> 00:25:00 for hours and we'll come up with our own series
00:25:00 --> 00:25:03 and whatnot but there's something about criterion
00:25:03 --> 00:25:05 that when you discover your favorite director
00:25:05 --> 00:25:09 And you start digging into their thoughts, their
00:25:09 --> 00:25:11 behind the scenes and how they came up with these
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 ideas. And then they sit down with a task and
00:25:14 --> 00:25:18 all these conversations. The supplementals are
00:25:18 --> 00:25:21 probably the best way to teach people not just
00:25:21 --> 00:25:24 about their favorite films, but about films in
00:25:24 --> 00:25:27 general. Yeah, absolutely. There's so much like
00:25:27 --> 00:25:29 good stuff behind the scenes that get included
00:25:29 --> 00:25:31 on those discs. And I loved that you brought
00:25:31 --> 00:25:35 up your love for John Waters and like how some
00:25:35 --> 00:25:37 like his more low -budget indie films are getting
00:25:37 --> 00:25:39 added to this because I think there's a place
00:25:39 --> 00:25:43 in the Criterion collection for They're like
00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 obviously with the Kubrick going in his whole
00:25:45 --> 00:25:48 fiction There's big massive movies like 2001
00:25:48 --> 00:25:51 but then there's also the the weird low -budget
00:25:51 --> 00:25:53 John Waters movies that are they're going in
00:25:53 --> 00:25:57 so I think that There is a real like you can
00:25:57 --> 00:26:00 love as many movies as you want and I also like
00:26:00 --> 00:26:03 what you said about Never wanting to step on
00:26:03 --> 00:26:05 somebody else's favorites, right? Because that's
00:26:05 --> 00:26:07 one thing that I try to do always on underrated
00:26:07 --> 00:26:12 is like there's unless a film is like Morally
00:26:12 --> 00:26:14 objectionable. I won't sell people like well,
00:26:14 --> 00:26:16 you shouldn't like this movie. I'm like, it doesn't
00:26:16 --> 00:26:19 work for me necessarily, but I'm glad that you
00:26:19 --> 00:26:21 like it I'm glad that these things work about
00:26:21 --> 00:26:23 it for you like the only movies and it's with
00:26:23 --> 00:26:25 a letterbox the only movies that I'll give half
00:26:25 --> 00:26:27 a star are movies that I'm like this is a Bad
00:26:27 --> 00:26:29 movie morally something like triumph of the will
00:26:29 --> 00:26:31 or something. That's something I'm like, ah,
00:26:31 --> 00:26:33 you know Don't that I don't like that movie that
00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 you shouldn't like it but for 99 times out of
00:26:36 --> 00:26:39 100 like just like what you like they like even
00:26:39 --> 00:26:44 if something is Not well made or like the acting
00:26:44 --> 00:26:48 is off or you know It was like kind of the studio's
00:26:48 --> 00:26:51 rue is something if something in that film clicks
00:26:51 --> 00:26:53 for a certain person Who am I to take it anything
00:26:53 --> 00:26:58 away from that? I meant to ask, do you, at least
00:26:58 --> 00:27:00 for, cause you mentioned about some films that
00:27:00 --> 00:27:03 might be morally wrong, but I just see sometimes
00:27:03 --> 00:27:07 when I go in, cause criterion has a lot of controversial
00:27:07 --> 00:27:11 titles. And sometimes when you're getting into
00:27:11 --> 00:27:13 the collection or when you get into criterion
00:27:13 --> 00:27:17 collecting as a first time buyer or as a first
00:27:17 --> 00:27:21 time approaching. Criterion you have those titles
00:27:21 --> 00:27:25 are are in behind the curtain. You've got the
00:27:25 --> 00:27:29 solo I know I saw it nicely joined by solo But
00:27:29 --> 00:27:32 how do you how do you approach those first -time
00:27:32 --> 00:27:37 buyers? That don't know much of Criterion So
00:27:37 --> 00:27:39 I will say most of the people who are coming
00:27:39 --> 00:27:41 in for the Criterion sale a lot of times They
00:27:41 --> 00:27:43 are not first -time by at least especially the
00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 people who are like coming in and like hordes
00:27:45 --> 00:27:48 and stuff like that They are they know what they
00:27:48 --> 00:27:50 want. They know what they like They're here for
00:27:50 --> 00:27:53 David Lynch or whatever it might be But I will
00:27:53 --> 00:27:54 say sometimes after the sale has been going for
00:27:54 --> 00:27:57 a little bit somebody sees criterion and they're
00:27:57 --> 00:27:59 like, okay I'm like if they're like looking to
00:27:59 --> 00:28:03 get more into film I I would like recommend them
00:28:03 --> 00:28:05 stuff that is like good starters for it. I talked
00:28:05 --> 00:28:08 about David Lynch, right? I might recommend them
00:28:08 --> 00:28:11 something like the elephant man. I think that's
00:28:11 --> 00:28:15 a easier offer on -ramp to something like that
00:28:15 --> 00:28:18 because it's still a very lynchian film and it's
00:28:18 --> 00:28:21 still like a Criterion film movie where it's
00:28:21 --> 00:28:23 like high art and kind of weird and made really
00:28:23 --> 00:28:27 well But it is palatable palatable to a mass
00:28:27 --> 00:28:29 audience where I think that I could recommend
00:28:29 --> 00:28:33 the elephant man to my mom, right? I cannot recommend
00:28:33 --> 00:28:36 blue velvet to my mom so i think when it comes
00:28:36 --> 00:28:38 to first time buyers to people looking to get
00:28:38 --> 00:28:41 like more into it or something like that i recommend
00:28:41 --> 00:28:43 those titles i also would recommend stuff that
00:28:43 --> 00:28:47 is like kind of some masterpieces of the collection
00:28:47 --> 00:28:49 that i think are maybe a bit underseen like i'll
00:28:49 --> 00:28:51 always ask people like well what are some movies
00:28:51 --> 00:28:53 that you like and they might let's say they they
00:28:53 --> 00:28:56 give me an example like oh well i really like
00:28:56 --> 00:28:58 uh I like screen and I'm like, okay, well then,
00:28:58 --> 00:29:00 uh, you know what? Have you ever heard of peeping
00:29:00 --> 00:29:03 Tom? This, this kind of like proto slasher from
00:29:03 --> 00:29:05 the sixties made by Michael Powell. That's in
00:29:05 --> 00:29:07 the collection. That one might be a really good
00:29:07 --> 00:29:10 one for you. So it's kind of like. Binding out
00:29:10 --> 00:29:13 what they like and making them a recommendation
00:29:13 --> 00:29:16 that they would be down for at least throughout
00:29:16 --> 00:29:19 the years is there's like a trend that you notice
00:29:19 --> 00:29:24 between the criterion buyers. I'd say the, the
00:29:24 --> 00:29:27 buyers, they're all a lot over the place. I think
00:29:27 --> 00:29:32 when some the I would say one big trend is that
00:29:32 --> 00:29:34 sometimes Some there will be a new movie that
00:29:34 --> 00:29:38 comes out for the collection Something like when
00:29:38 --> 00:29:40 Godzilla was like the hundred or the thousands
00:29:40 --> 00:29:43 film people were lining up for that HUD just
00:29:43 --> 00:29:45 came out people were clamoring for that So I
00:29:45 --> 00:29:48 think a lot of the times people are looking for
00:29:48 --> 00:29:51 what's the new big thing? I know criterion now
00:29:51 --> 00:29:55 a little bit more as I collect But I feel like
00:29:55 --> 00:29:57 for, not just the first time buyers, but people
00:29:57 --> 00:30:01 who are slowly building their criteria and collection,
00:30:02 --> 00:30:07 I feel like social media has become a big drive
00:30:07 --> 00:30:11 to discover these films. And sometimes, like
00:30:11 --> 00:30:13 you said, they come in, they know what they're
00:30:13 --> 00:30:17 buying. I go in and even when I know what I'm
00:30:17 --> 00:30:19 buying, I still end up buying something else
00:30:19 --> 00:30:22 that is not what I went for. But I also see sometimes
00:30:22 --> 00:30:26 the bad side of that, the influence that social
00:30:26 --> 00:30:29 media and YouTube is given also a little bit
00:30:29 --> 00:30:33 of FOMO and you kind of don't know where to balance
00:30:33 --> 00:30:35 that, especially if you're a new criterion buyer
00:30:35 --> 00:30:37 and you're like, oh no, I have to spend $300
00:30:37 --> 00:30:40 on the sale because... This guy over there said
00:30:40 --> 00:30:42 this thing, and this guy over there said I needed
00:30:42 --> 00:30:44 these other 10, and this one recommended another
00:30:44 --> 00:30:48 20. How much does social media and online recommendations
00:30:48 --> 00:30:51 you think have influenced the buyers? I think
00:30:51 --> 00:30:55 it definitely has. I think that there is a particularly
00:30:55 --> 00:30:57 cult around certain directors, certain quote
00:30:57 --> 00:31:01 unquote auteurs that people are drawn to. With
00:31:01 --> 00:31:04 the criterion stuff, it's less so of that than
00:31:04 --> 00:31:06 you would with like anything else, because I
00:31:06 --> 00:31:08 feel like with the criterion buyers, it's a lot
00:31:08 --> 00:31:11 of people Getting recommendations from their
00:31:11 --> 00:31:13 close friends or if it is from social media,
00:31:13 --> 00:31:15 it's it's stuff that they trust a lot It's like,
00:31:15 --> 00:31:18 okay. Well, I really like this critic. He's talked
00:31:18 --> 00:31:21 very Beautifully about this particular film.
00:31:21 --> 00:31:23 I'm gonna buy and check it out. I know me personally
00:31:24 --> 00:31:26 When I see something on social media, I talk
00:31:26 --> 00:31:29 to somebody, they recommend a film. I won't buy
00:31:29 --> 00:31:32 a physical copy of something until I've actually
00:31:32 --> 00:31:35 seen it because it's often a big investment.
00:31:35 --> 00:31:37 I love collecting physical media, but I want
00:31:37 --> 00:31:39 to actually collect the stuff that I know that
00:31:39 --> 00:31:42 I love. I will very rarely buy something sight
00:31:42 --> 00:31:44 unseen. Sometimes when I want to see a film,
00:31:44 --> 00:31:48 I rather just buy it. They're not cheap, but
00:31:48 --> 00:31:50 even if it's a used version. For example, like
00:31:50 --> 00:31:53 if I see the 4k for 40 bucks and I go to a used
00:31:53 --> 00:31:57 bookstore That they have DVDs or just a thrift
00:31:57 --> 00:32:00 store and I find it on DVD. I just go ahead and
00:32:00 --> 00:32:02 purchase it I'm like if I like it, I'll put it
00:32:02 --> 00:32:06 later. There's a lot of DVDs that I have that
00:32:06 --> 00:32:09 look pretty good and They'll stay on DVDs because
00:32:09 --> 00:32:12 I like them I just don't need them on 4k and
00:32:12 --> 00:32:14 I feel like you said if you're interested in
00:32:14 --> 00:32:18 something and you're not too sure about it Let
00:32:18 --> 00:32:20 me watch it first. Let me stream it But I just
00:32:20 --> 00:32:23 have the most horrible experiences with streaming.
00:32:23 --> 00:32:25 I have all these streaming channels, all these
00:32:25 --> 00:32:27 streaming networks. And I hate streaming things
00:32:27 --> 00:32:29 because every time I sit down, it's just like,
00:32:29 --> 00:32:31 oh, my internet went out. And my internet is
00:32:31 --> 00:32:34 always working. Except when I sit down and watch
00:32:34 --> 00:32:37 a movie. There's at least sometimes when you're
00:32:37 --> 00:32:39 working at least for me, I don't know your perspective
00:32:39 --> 00:32:42 on this, but I used to work in the book department.
00:32:43 --> 00:32:46 I was more of the expert when it came to... Court
00:32:46 --> 00:32:49 and Affairs and politics and history. I knew
00:32:49 --> 00:32:51 every book. I knew where they were. I knew everything.
00:32:52 --> 00:32:56 And for me, watching people, observing people,
00:32:57 --> 00:33:00 browsing titles, and you kind of want to jump
00:33:00 --> 00:33:02 in. You got all the, no, don't go, don't grab
00:33:02 --> 00:33:04 that one. Don't grab that one. I'll recommend
00:33:04 --> 00:33:06 you this one. And you know, that is not just
00:33:06 --> 00:33:09 a bookseller perspective. It's also kind of your
00:33:09 --> 00:33:13 knowledge, my background is in politics. And
00:33:13 --> 00:33:16 I know how to be centered and unbiased. Obviously,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:20 sometimes I have my opinions, but I know how
00:33:20 --> 00:33:23 to talk to someone who's on either side. And
00:33:23 --> 00:33:26 you mentioned yourself just a few moments ago
00:33:26 --> 00:33:29 how you also have to put yourself in like, okay,
00:33:29 --> 00:33:31 I can recommend this to my mom or I can't recommend
00:33:31 --> 00:33:34 this to my mom. There's a lot of books out there
00:33:34 --> 00:33:36 that when you're talking to someone who are either
00:33:36 --> 00:33:39 on either side of the aisle, you kind of want
00:33:39 --> 00:33:41 to give them something that is Educated you might
00:33:41 --> 00:33:43 be on that side, but you know still gotta educate
00:33:43 --> 00:33:46 yourself So, you know that that comes a lot also
00:33:46 --> 00:33:48 with films Like you said if you like screaming
00:33:48 --> 00:33:51 you might like peeping Tom So one thing sometimes
00:33:51 --> 00:33:55 influences another and I feel like browsing does
00:33:55 --> 00:33:59 give you a lot of ways to discover that streaming
00:33:59 --> 00:34:03 does not and How do you approach that though,
00:34:03 --> 00:34:05 you know for somebody who's mentality who's has
00:34:05 --> 00:34:08 space? It's so in streaming, not just on the
00:34:08 --> 00:34:11 note, but also like on Netflix. I need to approach
00:34:11 --> 00:34:14 those people at a bookstore. That's just a whole
00:34:14 --> 00:34:16 different mentality. Sometimes I don't even know
00:34:16 --> 00:34:19 how to speak to humans. He's like, hello, I am
00:34:19 --> 00:34:22 human. I am here to help you. Well, you always
00:34:22 --> 00:34:24 got to be kind of diplomatic, right? Like if
00:34:24 --> 00:34:27 somebody's buying a DVD and like that's a horrible
00:34:27 --> 00:34:29 movie and they're like talking about how much
00:34:29 --> 00:34:30 they love it. I'm like, oh, cool. Yeah, that
00:34:30 --> 00:34:32 one's really popular, blah, blah, blah. You got
00:34:32 --> 00:34:34 to kind of choose your words carefully. Even
00:34:34 --> 00:34:35 if it's something you don't like you haven't
00:34:35 --> 00:34:37 seen. whatever, you got to kind of like be like,
00:34:38 --> 00:34:40 but if you do see somebody that's like looking
00:34:40 --> 00:34:42 at something that's really good that you love,
00:34:42 --> 00:34:43 you might be like, okay, well, that's a great
00:34:43 --> 00:34:45 movie. And if they're asking you for your opinion
00:34:45 --> 00:34:48 between two of you, I will always give my honest
00:34:48 --> 00:34:50 one. Um, but yeah, just, just like you said,
00:34:51 --> 00:34:53 maybe holding your tongue, like, cause also you've
00:34:53 --> 00:34:55 got to make the sales. You got to make sure that
00:34:55 --> 00:34:57 people aren't walking out empty handed. And if
00:34:57 --> 00:34:58 somebody's looking to get something that maybe
00:34:58 --> 00:35:01 doesn't jive for you, it's like what I was saying
00:35:01 --> 00:35:03 before with the talk about the podcast, it doesn't
00:35:03 --> 00:35:05 work for me. I don't, who am I to judge if you
00:35:05 --> 00:35:08 like it for whatever reason? I feel like, like
00:35:08 --> 00:35:12 you said, at least like physical stores, they
00:35:12 --> 00:35:15 don't just create memories of going in and purchasing
00:35:15 --> 00:35:17 the title, especially if it's your first title,
00:35:18 --> 00:35:22 but they kinda help people again, not just discover
00:35:22 --> 00:35:25 the one title, but discover multiple titles.
00:35:25 --> 00:35:26 I think you have a really good point where you're
00:35:26 --> 00:35:29 saying like going to the store, seeing the physical
00:35:29 --> 00:35:32 things, browsing it that way is so different.
00:35:32 --> 00:35:35 And just like looking for something to stream
00:35:35 --> 00:35:37 on Netflix because you're making a much more
00:35:37 --> 00:35:40 like you're making a commitment, right? Whereas
00:35:40 --> 00:35:42 like streaming you could just like turn off whatever
00:35:42 --> 00:35:44 you're not spending 40 bucks whereas like you're
00:35:44 --> 00:35:47 actually buying something and it's something
00:35:47 --> 00:35:49 that I feel like a lot of places have lost. I
00:35:49 --> 00:35:51 think there is a lot of nostalgia for these places
00:35:51 --> 00:35:53 like Blockbuster that don't exist anymore. You
00:35:53 --> 00:35:55 always see these posts on TikTok or whatever
00:35:55 --> 00:35:58 about like oh man I miss the days when you could
00:35:58 --> 00:36:00 walk into a Blockbuster video and look around
00:36:00 --> 00:36:02 for what movie you wanted to watch and that's
00:36:02 --> 00:36:05 still I think that's a big reason why the criterion
00:36:05 --> 00:36:07 sale is still so popular is because people are
00:36:07 --> 00:36:09 getting to come in and look at all these Great
00:36:09 --> 00:36:11 physical desk and like, okay, do I want this
00:36:11 --> 00:36:13 one or this one? Oh this I even know this was
00:36:13 --> 00:36:15 in the collection I love this movie or what's
00:36:15 --> 00:36:18 this? I've never heard of this so it's it is
00:36:18 --> 00:36:20 I think creating those memories getting people
00:36:20 --> 00:36:25 to be more adventurous and By building these
00:36:25 --> 00:36:27 collections, but you can't just have like one
00:36:27 --> 00:36:29 or two criterion. Sorry You're like you've got
00:36:29 --> 00:36:31 a couple like okay. Well now I have a couple
00:36:31 --> 00:36:32 of these things I love them so much. I want to
00:36:32 --> 00:36:34 get more. I'm gonna get more adventurous I'm
00:36:34 --> 00:36:37 gonna buy some other ones that I might not have
00:36:37 --> 00:36:39 bought before but now it's like the thing of
00:36:39 --> 00:36:41 in for a penny in for a pound You have started
00:36:41 --> 00:36:43 collecting you're gonna be really into this.
00:36:43 --> 00:36:45 You're gonna start appreciating films You're
00:36:45 --> 00:36:47 gonna be watching these behind -the -scenes features
00:36:47 --> 00:36:50 and you're gonna really get a lot of film knowledge
00:36:50 --> 00:36:53 I'd totally agree with that Before we close this
00:36:53 --> 00:36:56 criterion talk, I'm going to put my Barbara Walter
00:36:56 --> 00:36:59 wig on and I have some hard -hitting questions
00:36:59 --> 00:37:03 for you. You're basically the pusher. You have
00:37:03 --> 00:37:05 people going in for a crack and you're the deal.
00:37:06 --> 00:37:10 What's your advice for someone buying their first
00:37:10 --> 00:37:14 criterion? I would say buy something that you
00:37:14 --> 00:37:16 love. Find a movie that don't just kind of like
00:37:16 --> 00:37:18 buy something because you've heard good things
00:37:18 --> 00:37:21 about it that you think you might like for your
00:37:21 --> 00:37:23 You can do that later on, but for your first
00:37:23 --> 00:37:27 one, like I said, my first one was The Princess
00:37:27 --> 00:37:29 Bride. That is an absolute masterpiece of a movie.
00:37:30 --> 00:37:33 And there's plenty of deep cuts in The Criterion,
00:37:33 --> 00:37:36 but there are plenty of movies that are really
00:37:36 --> 00:37:41 just very popular. I guarantee you that one of
00:37:41 --> 00:37:43 your favorites is in The Criterion Collection,
00:37:44 --> 00:37:46 whether it's Godzilla. or the Princess Bride,
00:37:47 --> 00:37:49 or 2001, or whatever it might be, find a movie
00:37:49 --> 00:37:53 that is very meaningful to you for the first
00:37:53 --> 00:37:56 one. And when it comes to criterion, what's one
00:37:56 --> 00:38:00 misconception about collecting that you think
00:38:00 --> 00:38:03 should change? I think maybe a misconception
00:38:03 --> 00:38:07 is that you need to keep buying the more expensive
00:38:07 --> 00:38:11 version of whatever it is. I think that... I
00:38:11 --> 00:38:14 don't know that there is, like if you have the
00:38:14 --> 00:38:17 Blu -ray already, I don't think you necessarily
00:38:17 --> 00:38:19 need to get the 4K unless it's a movie you're
00:38:19 --> 00:38:22 incredibly passionate about. You don't need three
00:38:22 --> 00:38:24 copies of the same thing because you had the
00:38:24 --> 00:38:26 DVD and you got the Blu -ray and now you need
00:38:26 --> 00:38:28 to get the 4K because they're releasing the 4K.
00:38:29 --> 00:38:31 The Blu -ray is good enough, I would say. Two
00:38:31 --> 00:38:34 films that you'd think out of the top of your
00:38:34 --> 00:38:36 head, two films that if somebody walked in...
00:38:36 --> 00:38:38 right now with 50 dollars because that's all
00:38:38 --> 00:38:41 you get. What are those two films that you think
00:38:41 --> 00:38:44 a first -time buyer should not just because of
00:38:44 --> 00:38:47 the preference but that you think should be in
00:38:47 --> 00:38:51 their collection? I would say if you are I would
00:38:51 --> 00:38:54 say The Red Shoes is one because if you want
00:38:54 --> 00:38:57 to know about if you want to watch a movie that
00:38:57 --> 00:39:00 is just beautifully made that is encapsulates
00:39:00 --> 00:39:02 all the things that people who are buying Criterion's
00:39:02 --> 00:39:06 love it's the same film that was made by Michael
00:39:06 --> 00:39:08 Powell as is a co -director on this one. It's
00:39:08 --> 00:39:11 as the archers. He's one of the archers This
00:39:11 --> 00:39:13 piece of cinema history that just looks so beautiful
00:39:13 --> 00:39:16 this technical or masterpiece It was restored
00:39:16 --> 00:39:20 by Martin Scorsese. That is a great film to watch
00:39:20 --> 00:39:23 if you especially haven't seen it That's a great
00:39:23 --> 00:39:26 one. I would say that's one for a second one.
00:39:27 --> 00:39:30 I'll say you know what? go for something, I'll
00:39:30 --> 00:39:33 say go for something more populous that is, and
00:39:33 --> 00:39:36 I'll say Godzilla, right? Godzilla, great monster
00:39:36 --> 00:39:39 movie, but also a great movie in general. Yeah,
00:39:39 --> 00:39:43 I actually loved that Godzilla film. That's one
00:39:43 --> 00:39:45 of my favorites, honestly. I'm wanting for King
00:39:45 --> 00:39:47 Kong to make its way to the collection, too.
00:39:47 --> 00:39:50 Not the King Kong from the 70s, not the 50s,
00:39:50 --> 00:39:52 the 50s, not the old Jessica Leige. God, I hate
00:39:52 --> 00:39:55 that King Kong. My favorite one is the 30s and
00:39:55 --> 00:40:02 the remake later on in the 2000s. Why do you
00:40:02 --> 00:40:06 think that physical media still matters? A because
00:40:06 --> 00:40:09 there's a lot of reasons but I think the one
00:40:09 --> 00:40:10 the most important is this is yours forever now
00:40:10 --> 00:40:12 this is something that you can have that you
00:40:12 --> 00:40:14 can collect that you can put on whatever you
00:40:14 --> 00:40:16 want that no one can ever take away from you
00:40:16 --> 00:40:18 because when you're buying something digitally
00:40:18 --> 00:40:19 you're just renting it or when you're streaming
00:40:19 --> 00:40:22 it they could take it off this is something that
00:40:22 --> 00:40:24 you have forever that no one can take away from
00:40:24 --> 00:40:27 you it's also really cool to have something you
00:40:27 --> 00:40:29 know tangible in your hand be like this is a
00:40:29 --> 00:40:32 movie that I love here it is I'm holding it it's
00:40:32 --> 00:40:34 got all these cool bells and whistles in it so
00:40:34 --> 00:40:37 that's really cool I also think that quality
00:40:37 --> 00:40:41 wise it is you're gonna always get a lot better
00:40:41 --> 00:40:44 a lot better version when you're watching it
00:40:44 --> 00:40:46 off a disc than when you're streaming you have
00:40:46 --> 00:40:48 to worry about compression and all this other
00:40:48 --> 00:40:51 stuff so I think there are quite a few reasons
00:40:51 --> 00:40:54 but I think the most important thing is, this
00:40:54 --> 00:40:57 is yours, no one can take it away. If your internet
00:40:57 --> 00:41:00 goes out, cool. I remember when I first moved
00:41:00 --> 00:41:02 into my apartment, we had no internet set up
00:41:02 --> 00:41:04 for a couple days. I was like, all right, not
00:41:04 --> 00:41:06 a problem. I have a million DVDs. Let's pick
00:41:06 --> 00:41:10 one and let's watch some movies. And having that
00:41:10 --> 00:41:13 connection to something physical, having it in
00:41:13 --> 00:41:15 your hand, putting it on your bookshelf, displaying
00:41:15 --> 00:41:17 it for people to see, is really so important.
00:41:18 --> 00:41:20 All right, Darren, thank you so much for that
00:41:20 --> 00:41:23 criterion talk. Make sure that you pack your
00:41:23 --> 00:41:26 wallets. Don't break bank. Go grab those criterions.
00:41:27 --> 00:41:29 Those that Derek recommended, I highly recommend
00:41:29 --> 00:41:32 too. Not just because I'm a Godzilla fan, but
00:41:32 --> 00:41:34 it's just the film is so beautifully shot. The
00:41:34 --> 00:41:37 rest is beautifully shot. So I highly recommend
00:41:37 --> 00:41:41 those two as well. If you heard my episode on
00:41:41 --> 00:41:45 my top 10 criterion recommendations, those are
00:41:45 --> 00:41:47 just recommendations that I think people should
00:41:48 --> 00:41:51 pay attention to and discover. They're totally
00:41:51 --> 00:41:55 underrated films. Some of them are known, like
00:41:55 --> 00:41:57 the Portrait of a Lady on Fire, which is one
00:41:57 --> 00:41:59 of my favorite criteria on release. It's such
00:41:59 --> 00:42:02 a beautiful film. But I feel like those are films
00:42:02 --> 00:42:05 that are not really talked about. And I hope
00:42:05 --> 00:42:08 that if you bought them, based on my recommendation,
00:42:08 --> 00:42:11 I hope you love them. If not, my name is Derek.
00:42:11 --> 00:42:15 But Derek, before we go, I have one more question
00:42:15 --> 00:42:28 for you. The physical cut presents Scream at
00:42:28 --> 00:42:36 30. I've been asking movie collectors, I've been
00:42:36 --> 00:42:40 asking film aficionados, I've been asking moviegoers
00:42:40 --> 00:42:43 and anybody who lives and breathe. How do you
00:42:43 --> 00:42:47 feel about Scream? What influence, if any, has
00:42:47 --> 00:42:51 the film had on you? So actually, I didn't watch
00:42:51 --> 00:42:54 the Scream, any of the Scream movies until relatively
00:42:54 --> 00:42:57 recently, a couple years back, because I was
00:42:57 --> 00:42:59 not a huge horror fan, not a huge slasher fan
00:42:59 --> 00:43:02 growing up. So, you know, I never got around
00:43:02 --> 00:43:04 to watching this film that is kind of a deconstruction
00:43:04 --> 00:43:07 of that. And it's just because, yeah, like I
00:43:07 --> 00:43:09 would never cover Scream on the podcast, but
00:43:09 --> 00:43:14 there was a, I was doing a mini series on sequels.
00:43:15 --> 00:43:16 And so we're talking about like sequels that
00:43:16 --> 00:43:20 maybe deserve more love and attention. and I
00:43:20 --> 00:43:24 had a co -host on my show back in the day and
00:43:24 --> 00:43:26 he was like okay well let's talk about Scream
00:43:26 --> 00:43:28 2 because he had the opinion that it's very unrelated
00:43:28 --> 00:43:30 so I was like okay well if I'm talking about
00:43:30 --> 00:43:33 Scream 2 I of course have to watch Scream 1 first
00:43:33 --> 00:43:36 watch Scream 1 I thought it was great I thought
00:43:36 --> 00:43:38 it was a great send -up of those kind of films
00:43:38 --> 00:43:41 Wes Craven kind of like going back to his roots
00:43:41 --> 00:43:43 and kind of like playing on all these tropes.
00:43:43 --> 00:43:46 I think that first scene where you think that
00:43:46 --> 00:43:47 the character who's going to be the main character
00:43:47 --> 00:43:50 or the final girl is actually just right away.
00:43:51 --> 00:43:53 I think that's a great twist. But I actually
00:43:53 --> 00:43:56 then I when I watched Scream 2, for me, I thought
00:43:56 --> 00:43:59 Scream 2 was even better. I love Scream 2. I
00:43:59 --> 00:44:01 think it's a masterpiece. I'm a big Timothy Olyphon
00:44:01 --> 00:44:04 fan. So like seeing him show up in that as Mickey,
00:44:05 --> 00:44:07 I thought was incredible. I think that movie,
00:44:07 --> 00:44:10 the way it skewers specifically horror sequels
00:44:10 --> 00:44:13 is so smart. I think it's a really interesting
00:44:13 --> 00:44:16 mystery because what I love about the Scream
00:44:16 --> 00:44:20 films is they are both slashers, but they're
00:44:20 --> 00:44:22 also whodunnits, whereas there's a different
00:44:22 --> 00:44:24 ghost face every time and you're always trying
00:44:24 --> 00:44:26 to figure out who the killer is. So it's got
00:44:26 --> 00:44:29 a bit of murder mystery in there with the horror.
00:44:29 --> 00:44:32 So I've And I eventually did watch Scream 3.
00:44:33 --> 00:44:35 I haven't seen anything past that, past the original
00:44:35 --> 00:44:38 trilogy. I think 3 doesn't hold up quite as well
00:44:38 --> 00:44:41 as those first two for sure. Never really had
00:44:41 --> 00:44:45 any big incentive to go on beyond that, especially
00:44:45 --> 00:44:48 the more recent ones seem to be a little bit
00:44:48 --> 00:44:51 the last one. People had a lot of feelings about
00:44:51 --> 00:44:54 that movie and so I never really got around to
00:44:54 --> 00:44:56 watching the recent ones, but especially Scream
00:44:56 --> 00:45:00 2 is such a good film. I try to fight for justice
00:45:00 --> 00:45:03 when it comes to Screen 3. I feel like it's a
00:45:03 --> 00:45:07 film. It's one of the many of the seven that
00:45:07 --> 00:45:11 is always overlooked. But once you start getting
00:45:11 --> 00:45:14 into Screen and learning and just loving the
00:45:14 --> 00:45:18 series more, you kind of have a special place
00:45:18 --> 00:45:21 for Screen 3 because one is the only one that
00:45:21 --> 00:45:24 you only have one killer and Like I always say
00:45:24 --> 00:45:27 I just love the family drama and that film is
00:45:27 --> 00:45:31 so stupid. It's so soap opera It has a special
00:45:31 --> 00:45:35 place in my heart because screen one I Saw on
00:45:35 --> 00:45:39 VHS the first time screen two. I also caught
00:45:39 --> 00:45:42 on VHS and it wasn't my favorite And then I saw
00:45:42 --> 00:45:45 Scream 3 in theaters. They kind of remember your
00:45:45 --> 00:45:49 first. That's why I'm like, I always fight the
00:45:49 --> 00:45:51 battle for that one. And I'm so glad that a lot
00:45:51 --> 00:45:54 of Scream fans are kind of going back and giving
00:45:54 --> 00:45:57 that one a second chance and a third chance just
00:45:57 --> 00:45:59 because the film has grown a little bit more
00:45:59 --> 00:46:01 popular lately. I'm not plugging anything here
00:46:01 --> 00:46:04 and I don't want to be, have us get a producer
00:46:04 --> 00:46:06 title, but I think that you should cover Scream
00:46:06 --> 00:46:09 3 because it is underrated. I do like Scream
00:46:09 --> 00:46:14 3. I did like it. It is so campy. The film is
00:46:14 --> 00:46:16 already campy, the films, but I feel like that
00:46:16 --> 00:46:20 one is probably the campiest of all of them.
00:46:20 --> 00:46:23 But if you ever do cover, screen to another minute,
00:46:23 --> 00:46:24 please send it to me. I want to be the first
00:46:24 --> 00:46:28 one to listen. You got a deal. But thank you
00:46:28 --> 00:46:30 so much there for being here today with me before
00:46:30 --> 00:46:32 you go. And I don't have no more questions for
00:46:32 --> 00:46:34 you, I swear. I think you're not here because
00:46:34 --> 00:46:37 Nikki owes me a favor because I hooked it up.
00:46:37 --> 00:46:40 We're bare years before you go I want you to
00:46:40 --> 00:46:43 tell people where they can find you if you have
00:46:43 --> 00:46:46 any upcoming Projects on your podcast where they
00:46:46 --> 00:46:48 can listen and I would also tag all that information
00:46:48 --> 00:46:52 here at the bottom for anyone who wants to discover
00:46:52 --> 00:46:55 Highly underrated films. Yeah. Thank you. So
00:46:55 --> 00:46:57 However, you're listening to this. We are on
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00:47:14 --> 00:47:17 movie podcast on social media That's how we are
00:47:17 --> 00:47:19 on all these social media sites Instagram blue
00:47:19 --> 00:47:23 sky all that stuff and then we are in the middle
00:47:23 --> 00:47:26 of a series right now talking about unreleased
00:47:26 --> 00:47:28 films so films that are so underrated that most
00:47:28 --> 00:47:32 people cannot even watch them so talking about
00:47:32 --> 00:47:34 movies that were either some of them are like
00:47:34 --> 00:47:36 made for streaming services that then were taken
00:47:36 --> 00:47:38 down by the same streaming service talking about
00:47:38 --> 00:47:41 a some silent film stuff that haven't lost the
00:47:41 --> 00:47:44 time all and talking about like Versions of films
00:47:44 --> 00:47:46 that were not allowed to be released by the studios
00:47:46 --> 00:47:48 the directors that were hampered So it's been
00:47:48 --> 00:47:50 a lot of fun getting to talk about those So I'd
00:47:50 --> 00:47:52 love people to go check that out over at underrated
00:47:52 --> 00:47:54 movie podcast Thank you so much there for being
00:47:54 --> 00:47:58 here today with me I really appreciate all your
00:47:58 --> 00:48:01 tea chains on criterion and your point of view
00:48:01 --> 00:48:03 that is something we really don't get from YouTube
00:48:03 --> 00:48:07 videos and I really wanna bring that to my audience.
00:48:08 --> 00:48:10 But I really appreciate you being here with me
00:48:10 --> 00:48:12 today. If you want to follow me, you can follow
00:48:12 --> 00:48:15 me at the physical cut pod on Instagram. And
00:48:15 --> 00:48:20 you can also check out on my website, krapodlab
00:48:20 --> 00:48:23 .com. We do have a site in there that you can
00:48:23 --> 00:48:25 leave me a voicemail if you want to let me know
00:48:25 --> 00:48:27 what screen means to you, your memories, your
00:48:27 --> 00:48:29 experience. If you hate it, you'll be deleted.
00:48:29 --> 00:48:31 But don't worry, I will still listen to it. Send
00:48:31 --> 00:48:34 me your thoughts on Instagram. If you want to
00:48:34 --> 00:48:36 be featured on any videos, you can send me your
00:48:36 --> 00:48:38 videos with your thoughts on screen. Send me
00:48:38 --> 00:48:41 your film recommendations and your thoughts on
00:48:41 --> 00:48:43 physical media. I would love to read them here
00:48:43 --> 00:48:45 on the show. Thank you for listening to the physical
00:48:45 --> 00:48:48 cut or films that be on the stream and I will
00:48:48 --> 00:48:49 see you guys next time.