The future of physical media has never been more uncertain. As streaming services grow and digital purchases become the norm, an important question remains: Do we actually own the movies and games we buy?
In this special crossover episode, The Physical Cut joins Super Wall Jump to explore one of the biggest debates in entertainment today. We discuss the differences between physical media and digital ownership, why movies and games continue disappearing from online storefronts, and what that means for collectors, gamers, and film lovers alike.
From licensing agreements that can revoke access to purchased digital content, to the importance of preserving alternate cuts, bonus features, and forgotten films, this conversation goes beyond nostalgia. We also discuss the role collectors play in protecting film history, the value of boutique labels like Criterion, discovering international cinema through physical media, and why convenience shouldn't come at the cost of ownership.
Whether you're a Blu-ray collector, a gamer, or someone who simply loves movies, this episode explores why physical media remains an essential part of preserving culture for future generations.
Topics Covered
- Physical media vs. streaming
- Do you really own digital movies?
- Why lost media matters
- Film preservation and collecting
- Physical games vs. digital downloads
- The future of Blu-ray, DVD, and physical media
- Criterion Collection and boutique labels
- Discovering international cinema
- Why collectors help preserve film history
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:17 But it's just like, Pocahontas is woke now. Welcome
00:00:17 --> 00:00:20 back to the physical cut where films live beyond
00:00:20 --> 00:00:22 the stream. I'm Carlos. And today's episode is
00:00:22 --> 00:00:25 going to be a little different. I recently joined
00:00:25 --> 00:00:28 another podcast to talk about. Something that's
00:00:28 --> 00:00:31 at the heart of this very show. And that's why
00:00:31 --> 00:00:34 physical media still matters in a world that's
00:00:34 --> 00:00:37 increasingly digital. We cover everything from
00:00:37 --> 00:00:40 digital ownership and lost media to historical
00:00:40 --> 00:00:42 preservation and whether streaming is quietly
00:00:42 --> 00:00:45 changing how we value art. If you ever wonder
00:00:45 --> 00:00:48 why collectors fight so hard to keep disc alive,
00:00:48 --> 00:00:51 then this conversation is definitely for you.
00:00:55 --> 00:00:58 Hello and welcome back to super wall job a video
00:00:58 --> 00:01:00 games podcast where I talk to content creators
00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 and video game developers and everything in between
00:01:02 --> 00:01:05 With me today. I have Carlos from the physical
00:01:05 --> 00:01:07 cut and we're gonna type up physical media. Say
00:01:07 --> 00:01:11 hi Carlos. Hi. Hi, how are you? So who are you
00:01:11 --> 00:01:16 and what do you do? I am a imposter when it comes
00:01:16 --> 00:01:18 to physical media, I guess. I love my physical
00:01:18 --> 00:01:21 media. I started just recently a podcast on it.
00:01:22 --> 00:01:24 I wanted to involve the community. I wanted to
00:01:24 --> 00:01:26 grow a community when it comes to physical media
00:01:26 --> 00:01:29 and film. My background is in politics, study
00:01:29 --> 00:01:32 politics. I wasn't in politics. I've been producing
00:01:32 --> 00:01:35 events for about 10 years now. I moved from that.
00:01:35 --> 00:01:38 It was a little bit stressful, so... I wanted
00:01:38 --> 00:01:41 to move myself to a better, more experiences
00:01:41 --> 00:01:44 basically, but I've always been in love with
00:01:44 --> 00:01:47 physical media, especially films. And that's
00:01:47 --> 00:01:51 the whole purpose of my podcast. Awesome. So
00:01:51 --> 00:01:55 what is physical media for people that have never
00:01:55 --> 00:01:58 heard that term before somehow? Physical media
00:01:58 --> 00:02:02 is A lot of people just basically narrow it down
00:02:02 --> 00:02:05 to films and games, but physical media is basically
00:02:05 --> 00:02:08 anything tangible. You have your books, that's
00:02:08 --> 00:02:11 physical media. You have your CDs, your cassettes,
00:02:11 --> 00:02:13 all of that is just physical media. Anything
00:02:13 --> 00:02:16 that is basically an entertainment format that
00:02:16 --> 00:02:19 is tangible that you can hold in your hand. That
00:02:19 --> 00:02:24 is physical media. Makes sense. Why is physical
00:02:24 --> 00:02:27 media important in this day and age? I have a
00:02:27 --> 00:02:30 computer as probably just everyone else out there.
00:02:30 --> 00:02:32 So if you already have a computer, why would
00:02:32 --> 00:02:36 you purchase a hard copy of a disc? Basically,
00:02:36 --> 00:02:39 it comes down to ownership. Physical media is
00:02:39 --> 00:02:41 all about ownership. The reason we got together
00:02:41 --> 00:02:43 is because we are getting news about physical
00:02:43 --> 00:02:46 media just disappearing or dying. Probably one
00:02:46 --> 00:02:49 of the best examples. And this is why I started
00:02:49 --> 00:02:53 the whole campaign with my podcast to, to help
00:02:53 --> 00:02:56 physical media thrive and survive is because
00:02:56 --> 00:02:58 one night I wanted to sit down and watch two
00:02:58 --> 00:03:00 week notice, you know, it's a, it's a movie that
00:03:00 --> 00:03:04 I have to watch whenever. I feel like it just
00:03:04 --> 00:03:08 comes to me as I, it's like, but it's an epiphany
00:03:08 --> 00:03:10 sometimes. And I was like, I knew it was on Netflix
00:03:10 --> 00:03:13 and it was on Netflix. Everything on Netflix
00:03:13 --> 00:03:15 was working properly. I played a few other movies
00:03:15 --> 00:03:18 that were working properly, but for some reason,
00:03:18 --> 00:03:21 two weeks notice was not playing. It was just
00:03:21 --> 00:03:23 buffering for about an hour. I took a shower,
00:03:23 --> 00:03:26 came back, made popcorn, came back, still buffering.
00:03:27 --> 00:03:31 And I checked my shelves. I don't have it. and
00:03:31 --> 00:03:33 i'm like i really want to watch this movie it's
00:03:33 --> 00:03:35 one of those movies that i just need to watch
00:03:35 --> 00:03:39 when i need to so it was it was a headache to
00:03:39 --> 00:03:41 be honest like after that i just turned netflix
00:03:41 --> 00:03:43 off i don't think i've been to netflix since
00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 i don't even have a netflix membership anymore
00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 and most of the movies whenever i want to go
00:03:48 --> 00:03:51 see them and i know they're streaming and I look
00:03:51 --> 00:03:54 for them, they're out of my playlist or my watch
00:03:54 --> 00:03:57 list. And that is sometimes like, it is a headache
00:03:57 --> 00:04:00 because again, you set your mood up and you want
00:04:00 --> 00:04:01 to Netflix and chill. And when I mean Netflix
00:04:01 --> 00:04:04 and chill, I mean popcorn and myself. So it's
00:04:04 --> 00:04:06 like, you want to watch as good as it gets. You
00:04:06 --> 00:04:08 want to watch something's got to give and it's
00:04:08 --> 00:04:10 not there. It's not that you want to feel good
00:04:10 --> 00:04:12 movie and now you're feeling bump out because
00:04:12 --> 00:04:15 your movie's not there. And when physical media
00:04:15 --> 00:04:17 right now can go to my room and grab as good
00:04:17 --> 00:04:19 as it gets and two weeks notice and guess what?
00:04:19 --> 00:04:21 I can just pop them in. get my kicks in whenever
00:04:21 --> 00:04:24 I want to watch those movies. And that's probably
00:04:24 --> 00:04:27 one of the reasons, the main reason for supporting
00:04:27 --> 00:04:30 and just like saving physical media is to be
00:04:30 --> 00:04:34 able to access it whenever you want. It's not
00:04:34 --> 00:04:36 up to the streamers. It's not up to the licensing.
00:04:37 --> 00:04:40 It's just up to, to basically you owning it.
00:04:40 --> 00:04:44 It's all about you owning it. It's way more reliable
00:04:44 --> 00:04:47 because again, with something like Netflix or
00:04:47 --> 00:04:51 Amazon prime or what have you. These licensing
00:04:51 --> 00:04:54 deals they have for movies oftentimes can last
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 like six months and then it's gone and Then you
00:04:58 --> 00:05:01 have to go onto Google and be like where can
00:05:01 --> 00:05:06 I find? Superman from 1997. Oh, well, actually
00:05:06 --> 00:05:09 that's only available on this niche streaming
00:05:09 --> 00:05:14 service. That's only available in Like the UK
00:05:14 --> 00:05:17 unless you own it unless you own it physically
00:05:17 --> 00:05:21 in which case the only obstacle is whether or
00:05:21 --> 00:05:23 not you have a DVD player or a Blu -ray player.
00:05:24 --> 00:05:26 Yeah. You go check, and it's like somewhere in
00:05:26 --> 00:05:28 Slovakia, and I'm like, I'm not Slovakian. I
00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 don't know. I can't access that. It's also the
00:05:30 --> 00:05:33 fact that now, a lot of the news and a lot of
00:05:33 --> 00:05:36 the criticism, not just from physical media done,
00:05:36 --> 00:05:40 it's just even if you own it on digital, it's
00:05:40 --> 00:05:42 subject to disappear. They don't have to tell
00:05:42 --> 00:05:44 you. At this point, you're not even buying it.
00:05:44 --> 00:05:47 You're basically just renting it. And it's ironic
00:05:47 --> 00:05:51 because sometimes they advise you, oh, this might
00:05:51 --> 00:05:54 disappear from your library at one point. You're
00:05:54 --> 00:05:57 welcome to download it to an external hard drive.
00:05:58 --> 00:06:01 I'm old enough to know. I think that's called
00:06:01 --> 00:06:04 bootlegging, isn't it? Or is it pirating? Because
00:06:04 --> 00:06:06 that's what you used to do back in the day with
00:06:06 --> 00:06:10 torrents, line wire. Wasn't that also an external
00:06:10 --> 00:06:14 hard drive? It depends, right? If you are torrenting
00:06:14 --> 00:06:16 something, you could theoretically say that that
00:06:16 --> 00:06:19 is pirating. I think bootlegging would be the
00:06:19 --> 00:06:22 appropriate term of, all right, cool, I own this,
00:06:22 --> 00:06:26 but I'm going to make a copy of it. Yeah. Which
00:06:26 --> 00:06:28 is what people are doing now. They're doing that
00:06:28 --> 00:06:32 now. Well, you have to. Recently in the news,
00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 Sony announced that they were going to be deleting
00:06:34 --> 00:06:38 551 movies and TV shows from people's accounts
00:06:38 --> 00:06:43 in the UK. This is because they got those movies
00:06:43 --> 00:06:47 and TV shows from a deal with Studio Canal. Studio
00:06:47 --> 00:06:50 Canal and them did not reach a new deal. And
00:06:50 --> 00:06:54 so on September 1st of this year, they're no
00:06:54 --> 00:06:56 longer going to have access to those movies.
00:06:56 --> 00:06:59 So if you bought one of those movies on PlayStation,
00:06:59 --> 00:07:04 it's going to be gone. Sorry, it's not allowed
00:07:04 --> 00:07:08 for you to own it because These days a lot of
00:07:08 --> 00:07:10 the times when you are purchasing a digital good
00:07:10 --> 00:07:13 you are not actually making a purchase you are
00:07:13 --> 00:07:17 actually Purchasing a license to use it and that
00:07:17 --> 00:07:22 license can be revoked very easily Which we are
00:07:22 --> 00:07:26 finding out. Hey, even if you purchase a movie
00:07:26 --> 00:07:29 on any of these streaming services Cool if Amazon
00:07:29 --> 00:07:33 loses the rights to show you a certain show It
00:07:33 --> 00:07:35 doesn't matter if you bought it it's going to
00:07:35 --> 00:07:39 be gone. And then that $15 that you spent, you
00:07:39 --> 00:07:42 could have just bought a hard copy of a disc
00:07:42 --> 00:07:45 and put it on your shelf and then you wouldn't
00:07:45 --> 00:07:49 lose it. No, that is true. But it's funny because
00:07:49 --> 00:07:53 you keep getting news every day is Gen Z is discovering
00:07:53 --> 00:07:55 physical media with the importance of physical
00:07:55 --> 00:07:58 media. Then you have PlayStation, basically,
00:07:58 --> 00:08:01 or Sony saying, yeah, nope. It reminds me of
00:08:01 --> 00:08:05 that meme. The meme from Horrible Bosses. Yeah.
00:08:05 --> 00:08:07 And he's like, DF, you're not, you're not discovering
00:08:07 --> 00:08:09 anything at this point. We're just going to take
00:08:09 --> 00:08:13 it all away. And I get the fact that it's like
00:08:13 --> 00:08:17 people, uh, um, I posted on Reddit and I said,
00:08:17 --> 00:08:20 what do you think about physical media or at
00:08:20 --> 00:08:23 least Sony taking out physical games? I'm not
00:08:23 --> 00:08:25 a big gamer. I'm a movie collector. I can talk
00:08:25 --> 00:08:29 about movie collecting all day, but I have, I
00:08:29 --> 00:08:32 have tons of, uh, um, PS fours, PS five games.
00:08:33 --> 00:08:36 And most of them were during pandemic. Uh, I
00:08:36 --> 00:08:38 said, you know what, we're probably all going
00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 to die. And before we die, I want to play outer
00:08:40 --> 00:08:43 circle or auto rim, whatever it's called. And
00:08:43 --> 00:08:45 five seconds that I got bored, not going to lie.
00:08:45 --> 00:08:47 But the thing is that at least I was able to
00:08:47 --> 00:08:50 go somewhere, socialize with people. Cause if
00:08:50 --> 00:08:52 you're buying a digital games, you're only socializing
00:08:52 --> 00:08:55 with the store. Um, you're not socializing with
00:08:55 --> 00:08:59 anybody else. I went to the game stop. During
00:08:59 --> 00:09:01 the pandemic with my mask and seeing humans.
00:09:01 --> 00:09:04 I was afraid of seeing zombies or something at
00:09:04 --> 00:09:07 that point It's like no humans still exist and
00:09:07 --> 00:09:09 I'm speaking to a human I'm buying, you know
00:09:09 --> 00:09:11 with the government money all these games because
00:09:11 --> 00:09:16 somehow we had to spend that money and I I would
00:09:16 --> 00:09:19 just go home, you know put one in and feel in
00:09:19 --> 00:09:22 you know, like at least I was not just contributing
00:09:22 --> 00:09:25 to the economy per se But it's also like I got
00:09:25 --> 00:09:28 to talk to a human today And this human recommended
00:09:28 --> 00:09:31 this game, cause he knows I like adventure games,
00:09:31 --> 00:09:36 open world games. And I get the fact that you
00:09:36 --> 00:09:38 could go buy a used game for maybe half the price
00:09:38 --> 00:09:40 they want to sell it for. They're not getting
00:09:40 --> 00:09:45 any money out of that. But if you put that same
00:09:45 --> 00:09:47 context of, Oh, we're not making money because
00:09:47 --> 00:09:51 people are buying used games. Then, okay. Well,
00:09:51 --> 00:09:53 books would not exist. Cause I have a lot of
00:09:53 --> 00:09:56 books that are secondhand books. That doesn't
00:09:56 --> 00:09:58 mean that. That author, Stephen King, for God's
00:09:58 --> 00:10:01 sake, like I have a whole Stephen King, I call
00:10:01 --> 00:10:03 it the dark tower. It's like a huge bookcase.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:06 It's all Stephen King. A lot of them are secondhand
00:10:06 --> 00:10:08 books because I buy a different cover anytime
00:10:08 --> 00:10:10 I find it. Same thing with Wuthering Heights
00:10:10 --> 00:10:12 and Jane Eyre. That is the importance for me
00:10:12 --> 00:10:14 when it comes to physical media in literature.
00:10:15 --> 00:10:18 I have different versions. I have this used version
00:10:18 --> 00:10:21 of Wuthering Heights is a hard cover that it
00:10:21 --> 00:10:25 was printed in 1960 something. Um, and I got
00:10:25 --> 00:10:27 it when I was traveling. I found it. I was like,
00:10:27 --> 00:10:29 you know what? I'm taking it. I'm pretty sure
00:10:29 --> 00:10:31 Emily Bronte is not getting money out of it and
00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 it's fine. She doesn't need it. At the end of
00:10:33 --> 00:10:36 the day, if books were non -existent because
00:10:36 --> 00:10:39 people are buying secondhand, like what would
00:10:39 --> 00:10:40 literature be? And that's the same thing with
00:10:40 --> 00:10:43 films. I bought a Spice Girls DVD this weekend
00:10:43 --> 00:10:48 for 12 bucks. Oh no, 25 bucks. Sorry. And that's
00:10:48 --> 00:10:51 not any royalties for the creators, but the film
00:10:51 --> 00:10:53 is not in print. So I got to buy a secondhand
00:10:53 --> 00:10:56 one at this point. So I'm like, are you going
00:10:56 --> 00:10:58 to start making films because of that? I'm like,
00:10:58 --> 00:10:59 we're buying them secondhand because they're
00:10:59 --> 00:11:02 not accessible anymore. You know, you're not
00:11:02 --> 00:11:04 reprinting them. And now I believe they're going
00:11:04 --> 00:11:06 to throw it on streaming. And I posted, I'm like,
00:11:06 --> 00:11:07 I don't need to watch it on streaming. I just
00:11:07 --> 00:11:10 bought it this weekend. I don't have to pay for
00:11:10 --> 00:11:13 a streamer for that. And if you look at games
00:11:13 --> 00:11:16 and everything else, it is a way for them to
00:11:16 --> 00:11:20 monopolize how you access this content. It's
00:11:20 --> 00:11:23 why Amazon is like, oh, hey, you should buy books
00:11:23 --> 00:11:28 on the Kindle. Because if you can't share a book
00:11:28 --> 00:11:31 on the Kindle with your friend, you can lend
00:11:31 --> 00:11:34 them your Kindle. But I would, you know, I would
00:11:34 --> 00:11:36 not be surprised if Amazon was like, how can
00:11:36 --> 00:11:39 we make sure that we have authentication on the
00:11:39 --> 00:11:45 Kindle? And games are the same way. If you don't
00:11:45 --> 00:11:47 have physical media, you can't resell games.
00:11:47 --> 00:11:50 You can't share them with your friends. There's
00:11:50 --> 00:11:53 not really going to be a reason to go to GameStop.
00:11:53 --> 00:11:57 And that also means that they can have monopolistic
00:11:57 --> 00:12:01 pricing structures. Hey, we're the only place
00:12:01 --> 00:12:03 you can get a PlayStation game. Hey, we're the
00:12:03 --> 00:12:06 only place you can get an Xbox game. And guess
00:12:06 --> 00:12:09 what? That means we can charge whatever we want.
00:12:10 --> 00:12:13 I made a video recently talking about, you know,
00:12:14 --> 00:12:16 Sony's decision to try and get rid of disk drives
00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 so that way they don't have to have physical
00:12:18 --> 00:12:22 media. basically ever again. And a big part of
00:12:22 --> 00:12:25 it is, yeah, they can charge whatever they want
00:12:25 --> 00:12:29 because the only way to get new games for PlayStation
00:12:29 --> 00:12:32 is going to be through the online marketplace.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:36 Immortals of Aveum, a game that no one played,
00:12:38 --> 00:12:42 is $70 on the PlayStation Store. As of recording,
00:12:43 --> 00:12:46 the Steam summer sale is going on and that game
00:12:46 --> 00:12:52 is $6. It is less than 10 % of the price. Because
00:12:52 --> 00:12:55 it's not a big game. You don't need to charge
00:12:55 --> 00:12:59 $70, but PlayStation knows, hey, we have no competitors.
00:12:59 --> 00:13:03 You can't buy PlayStation games on another online
00:13:03 --> 00:13:07 store on the PlayStation. Steam at least has
00:13:07 --> 00:13:10 GOG and Epic Games and theoretically Game Pass
00:13:10 --> 00:13:13 where you have to compete, but... that also drives
00:13:13 --> 00:13:16 prices down. And when you get rid of that competition
00:13:16 --> 00:13:18 inherent in physical media, you can charge whatever
00:13:18 --> 00:13:21 you want. Imagine a world where books were always
00:13:21 --> 00:13:24 a hundred dollars or games were always a hundred
00:13:24 --> 00:13:28 dollars. A lot less people would be buying books
00:13:28 --> 00:13:31 or games or movies if they had to spend a hundred
00:13:31 --> 00:13:35 dollars every time. Like, hey, we mentioned obsession
00:13:35 --> 00:13:40 in the pre -show and hey, You don't think they
00:13:40 --> 00:13:44 want to charge you $50 to own Obsession digitally?
00:13:45 --> 00:13:48 They do, but they know that they can't because
00:13:48 --> 00:13:50 they know that someone's going to be able to
00:13:50 --> 00:13:53 get Obsession on DVD and share it with their
00:13:53 --> 00:13:57 friends. And it's a real way to fight back against,
00:13:57 --> 00:14:01 you know, the rampant horrors of capitalism or
00:14:01 --> 00:14:04 what have you by investing in that physical media
00:14:04 --> 00:14:08 because you can share physical media. No, it's
00:14:08 --> 00:14:12 true one of the redditors he was like he informed
00:14:12 --> 00:14:15 me because again, I don't I don't keep the math
00:14:15 --> 00:14:19 on on games and He said oh most of the games
00:14:19 --> 00:14:23 are bought digitally anyway I think recently
00:14:23 --> 00:14:28 we bought Tomb Raider the set of three on PlayStation
00:14:28 --> 00:14:32 5 That's probably the only game besides Nintendo.
00:14:32 --> 00:14:34 That's probably the only game that I had digitally
00:14:34 --> 00:14:37 if I don't care too much for a game Sure. I'll
00:14:37 --> 00:14:39 buy it digitally. Cause at the end of the day,
00:14:39 --> 00:14:41 if I want to try it out and also it has to be
00:14:41 --> 00:14:43 on sale. I'm not going to go buy, sell the breath
00:14:43 --> 00:14:47 of the wild for $70 still in Nintendo when you
00:14:47 --> 00:14:50 can buy that. It's been out for nine years. And,
00:14:50 --> 00:14:52 and, and you can buy for how I bought it for
00:14:52 --> 00:14:54 half the price. And over there, when I went to
00:14:54 --> 00:14:57 get awakening or something, that one was 60 something
00:14:57 --> 00:14:59 dollars. I'm like, I'll just get it on Amazon.
00:14:59 --> 00:15:01 It's half the price. It makes no sense. It's
00:15:01 --> 00:15:04 been out for almost two years now. I'm not going
00:15:04 --> 00:15:05 to spend money on that. That's why I haven't
00:15:05 --> 00:15:08 bought the more recent one and as much as I like
00:15:08 --> 00:15:11 Zelda, but I, the only way that I spend money
00:15:11 --> 00:15:14 on a digital game is if I'm too lazy. If I have
00:15:14 --> 00:15:17 a party starting at about an hour and we all
00:15:17 --> 00:15:21 want to play Mario Kart, but I did not know that
00:15:21 --> 00:15:23 most of the games are digital, but it doesn't
00:15:23 --> 00:15:26 mean that just because most of the game are digitals
00:15:26 --> 00:15:28 where you could at least do like some movie companies
00:15:28 --> 00:15:31 do, do a limited edition. Like, okay, if most
00:15:31 --> 00:15:35 of your sales are digital, then I don't know,
00:15:35 --> 00:15:37 make 2000 copies of a game. You're still going
00:15:37 --> 00:15:39 to make some money out of that. But I'm like,
00:15:39 --> 00:15:42 what's the point of you coming to your friend's
00:15:42 --> 00:15:45 house? And I say, because this happened, I grew
00:15:45 --> 00:15:47 up in the nineties. You went to your friend's
00:15:47 --> 00:15:50 house with your cassette or your disc and you
00:15:50 --> 00:15:52 pop it in. Now you have to go to your friend's
00:15:52 --> 00:15:55 house. Oh, let me log into my account from your
00:15:55 --> 00:15:58 Nintendo, your PlayStation. I'm not good with
00:15:58 --> 00:16:01 passwords. Oh, I can't log in now. I need a multi,
00:16:01 --> 00:16:03 you know, uh, how do you call that? The multi
00:16:03 --> 00:16:07 factor, you know, to prove that a multi factor
00:16:07 --> 00:16:09 authentication. Yeah. I just say, and now we're
00:16:09 --> 00:16:11 down. We got a lot of acronyms already. Um, so
00:16:11 --> 00:16:13 I'm like, yeah, I can't remember. I'm like, what
00:16:13 --> 00:16:15 phone number did I put? And now I don't have
00:16:15 --> 00:16:17 good signal though. It's, it's a little bit jumping
00:16:17 --> 00:16:20 through hoops to socialize. Even like, again,
00:16:20 --> 00:16:21 if you're going to a party and you want to socialize
00:16:21 --> 00:16:23 and play Mario Kart and I'm not in my house.
00:16:23 --> 00:16:26 Well, now I can't access my account. What we
00:16:26 --> 00:16:29 do is that we literally carry. It sounds stupid,
00:16:29 --> 00:16:32 but it's true. We literally carry our games,
00:16:32 --> 00:16:35 our physical games, our Nintendo Switches to
00:16:35 --> 00:16:37 another house whenever we want to go to a party.
00:16:38 --> 00:16:39 Because I know we're going to end up playing
00:16:39 --> 00:16:42 and not have most of the games. So it's like,
00:16:42 --> 00:16:43 if we want to do a party, yeah, now you got to
00:16:43 --> 00:16:46 carry not just the hors d 'oeuvres and the champagne.
00:16:46 --> 00:16:48 Now you got to carry with your Nintendo Switch
00:16:48 --> 00:16:52 as well. It's ridiculous. Yeah. And the thing
00:16:52 --> 00:16:56 is, is that going all digital... Let me rephrase,
00:16:57 --> 00:17:01 fiscal media is also a major hedge against piracy
00:17:01 --> 00:17:05 because there are people that when they see Immortals
00:17:05 --> 00:17:09 of the Veem for $70, they say, no, and if there's
00:17:09 --> 00:17:12 no better way to play it, I'm just going to pirate
00:17:12 --> 00:17:16 the thing, right? Hey, cool. Oh, so you're telling
00:17:16 --> 00:17:21 me I need to spend $50 on a DVD of Starship Troopers?
00:17:22 --> 00:17:25 I'm just gonna go to insert piracy website here
00:17:25 --> 00:17:30 and Go watch the movie that way Physical media
00:17:30 --> 00:17:34 is a hedge against that Piracy is mostly an issue
00:17:34 --> 00:17:38 of access if people can access it easily. They're
00:17:38 --> 00:17:41 not gonna go to a sketchy website But if you
00:17:41 --> 00:17:45 make your content hard or expensive to get to,
00:17:45 --> 00:17:49 people are going to look at other means. As collectors,
00:17:50 --> 00:17:54 my fear is just having the access to just what
00:17:54 --> 00:17:57 I like. I'm a very OCD and I'm a very anxious
00:17:57 --> 00:18:00 person and I'm always afraid of losing my things.
00:18:01 --> 00:18:04 But once something is in my computer, I'm not
00:18:04 --> 00:18:07 a big techie person. So that's probably why I
00:18:07 --> 00:18:09 love physical media so much. I don't know where
00:18:09 --> 00:18:12 things are. I don't know where anything in my
00:18:12 --> 00:18:14 computer is. I don't know where my photos are.
00:18:14 --> 00:18:17 I'm always afraid of my photos being leaked again,
00:18:17 --> 00:18:19 but you know, my identity being stolen for the
00:18:19 --> 00:18:23 fourth time. I'm not a big techie person. And
00:18:23 --> 00:18:26 they're like, oh, you're an old person. No, it's
00:18:26 --> 00:18:28 just that I'm working half of the time. And the
00:18:28 --> 00:18:30 other time I don't have time to go in and explore
00:18:30 --> 00:18:33 my computer. I just use it for my podcast. I
00:18:33 --> 00:18:37 use my phone for Instagram. but I don't know
00:18:37 --> 00:18:39 it just feels so different walking into your
00:18:39 --> 00:18:43 room and seeing that display then how are you
00:18:43 --> 00:18:45 gonna walk into your room and you just got like
00:18:45 --> 00:18:48 bare walls and oh yeah let me turn on my tv and
00:18:48 --> 00:18:50 my playstation and i'm just gonna look at my
00:18:50 --> 00:18:52 digital library you know that it doesn't have
00:18:52 --> 00:18:55 the same feeling it doesn't have the same part
00:18:55 --> 00:18:57 that they also get is collecting physical media
00:18:57 --> 00:19:01 is fun if listener, you're watching YouTube right
00:19:01 --> 00:19:04 now, you can see a bunch of books that I have
00:19:04 --> 00:19:06 on the bookcase behind me. And that's one of
00:19:06 --> 00:19:09 multiple bookcases that we own. We like books.
00:19:09 --> 00:19:13 Having books is fun. I like being able to sort
00:19:13 --> 00:19:17 of peruse stuff at my leisure. And it also is
00:19:17 --> 00:19:19 just a reminder of the life that I've lived,
00:19:19 --> 00:19:21 right? And that's something that physical media
00:19:21 --> 00:19:23 can really do is like, Oh, hey, There are books
00:19:23 --> 00:19:26 on there that I can tell you when I got them,
00:19:27 --> 00:19:29 how long I've had them and the memories that
00:19:29 --> 00:19:33 I've that I associate with them. I'm pointing
00:19:33 --> 00:19:36 at a book right now, which is the first volume
00:19:36 --> 00:19:41 of Drive, which is a webcomic about space and
00:19:41 --> 00:19:45 aliens. And it's really good. I remember taking
00:19:45 --> 00:19:49 that on a cruise like a decade ago and trying
00:19:49 --> 00:19:52 to get my dad to read it because he likes comics.
00:19:53 --> 00:19:56 You can't do that with digital media as much.
00:19:57 --> 00:19:59 Handing a book to someone and being able to hold
00:19:59 --> 00:20:01 in your hands is a fundamentally different experience
00:20:01 --> 00:20:04 to be like, oh, hey, I got, I found this website,
00:20:04 --> 00:20:07 dad, check it out. When we were talking before
00:20:07 --> 00:20:10 in the pre -show, I mentioned that I love traveling.
00:20:10 --> 00:20:14 I work for an airline company and Sometimes people
00:20:14 --> 00:20:16 ask me, it's like, oh, you went to this museum?
00:20:16 --> 00:20:19 I'm like, what museum? Oh, you went to this other
00:20:19 --> 00:20:21 place? I'm like, what other place? I'm like,
00:20:21 --> 00:20:23 I can mention every bookstore in London and every
00:20:23 --> 00:20:25 movie store in London, but I'm not going to go
00:20:25 --> 00:20:27 to the British Museum. I went once. One is Smell.
00:20:27 --> 00:20:29 It was too hot and everything there is stolen.
00:20:29 --> 00:20:32 Why would I want to go back? And then I went
00:20:32 --> 00:20:35 to Rome and I was like, oh, that's a rock. That's
00:20:35 --> 00:20:37 another rock. I'm like, where's the movie stores
00:20:37 --> 00:20:40 at? Google movie stores. Oh, Profundo Rosso is
00:20:40 --> 00:20:41 here. You know, it belongs to Argento. Let me
00:20:41 --> 00:20:44 go check that out. The only museum that I remember
00:20:44 --> 00:20:46 vividly is the little museum they have under
00:20:46 --> 00:20:49 Profundo Rosso, which is Argento films, little
00:20:49 --> 00:20:52 scenes from Argento films. I don't remember the
00:20:52 --> 00:20:54 Vatican. I feel like one of my best experiences
00:20:54 --> 00:20:58 was walking into a bookstore in Mexico city and
00:20:58 --> 00:21:00 just, I just go to them. I'm like, okay, tell
00:21:00 --> 00:21:04 me about. your regional politics, your domestic
00:21:04 --> 00:21:07 politics, give me all the books you have on politics.
00:21:07 --> 00:21:10 But the same thing when I go to a video store
00:21:10 --> 00:21:12 or a movie store in another country and they
00:21:12 --> 00:21:15 speak English, I'm like, oh, thank God. Or Spanish,
00:21:15 --> 00:21:17 because I speak Spanish as well. But it's like
00:21:17 --> 00:21:19 they tell me about their movies. I love Pedro
00:21:19 --> 00:21:21 and Moldova. So when I go to Madrid, which is
00:21:21 --> 00:21:23 one of my favorite cities, I'm able to talk to
00:21:23 --> 00:21:26 people about Pedro and Moldova. I still love
00:21:26 --> 00:21:28 talking to people about that. And especially
00:21:28 --> 00:21:32 when they know physical media, I've discovered
00:21:32 --> 00:21:35 a lot of films because people, oh go grab that
00:21:35 --> 00:21:38 disc or when I post pictures, people are like,
00:21:38 --> 00:21:40 oh that movie that's on your picture right there.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:42 It's a good horror movie. You should probably
00:21:42 --> 00:21:45 pick it up. I travel with an empty suitcase or
00:21:45 --> 00:21:48 an empty carry -on bag because I know. And people
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 were like, oh you brought a lot of stuff. What'd
00:21:50 --> 00:21:52 you bring back? Souvenirs? I'm like, well no,
00:21:52 --> 00:21:56 books. Everything on your shelf is a story. Yeah.
00:21:56 --> 00:22:00 Right. And that is another, even if it's a boring
00:22:00 --> 00:22:03 story. Hey, I went to Barnes and Noble and I
00:22:03 --> 00:22:05 picked up the book and I got an iced coffee.
00:22:06 --> 00:22:08 It's still, it's, it's not the most riveting
00:22:08 --> 00:22:13 story, but it's still a story and it helps integration
00:22:13 --> 00:22:16 you more into the world at large. I think also
00:22:16 --> 00:22:19 something we should bring up is preservation
00:22:19 --> 00:22:23 is a lot easier with physical media than digital.
00:22:23 --> 00:22:27 I think particularly of. There are lots of games
00:22:27 --> 00:22:30 that have come out over the years that are lost
00:22:30 --> 00:22:35 to time. And for film and TV, if you look at
00:22:35 --> 00:22:37 something like Doctor Who, the first few seasons
00:22:37 --> 00:22:40 of Doctor Who basically all got burned up in
00:22:40 --> 00:22:43 a fire. They got some of the audio, but it wasn't
00:22:43 --> 00:22:46 incredibly popular, so it wasn't preserved. And
00:22:46 --> 00:22:49 digital media will only preserve the stuff that
00:22:49 --> 00:22:53 is popular. And... I don't know. I think there
00:22:53 --> 00:22:55 are some things that should be kept preserved
00:22:55 --> 00:22:59 just for, like, historical purposes. Hey, maybe
00:22:59 --> 00:23:04 this game for the NES was really bad. Maybe this
00:23:04 --> 00:23:09 movie that someone made in 1960 sucks. But that
00:23:09 --> 00:23:11 doesn't mean that it's not important and also
00:23:11 --> 00:23:14 representative of the time that it came out.
00:23:14 --> 00:23:16 Digital Media is not going to preserve the movie
00:23:16 --> 00:23:20 from 1960, right? Like, I know Le Quandre C 'est
00:23:20 --> 00:23:23 Cool. um 400 blows like hey that one's gonna
00:23:23 --> 00:23:25 be preserved but there's a lot of like french
00:23:25 --> 00:23:29 new wave films that are not going to be touched
00:23:29 --> 00:23:31 because they just aren't that popular but they
00:23:31 --> 00:23:34 still should be preserved for the impact they've
00:23:34 --> 00:23:37 had on culture and it's funny because i'm like
00:23:37 --> 00:23:40 you mentioned films that some people might not
00:23:40 --> 00:23:42 care about i don't care about the room I don't
00:23:42 --> 00:23:45 know if you know the movie The Room. I drank
00:23:45 --> 00:23:48 a lot while watching that in college. Yeah, so
00:23:48 --> 00:23:51 my former roommate used to love that movie. I
00:23:51 --> 00:23:53 hated it. But it doesn't mean that the movie
00:23:53 --> 00:23:56 shouldn't exist. The Prince Charles Cinema, I
00:23:56 --> 00:23:59 don't know if they have stocks in that movie,
00:23:59 --> 00:24:03 but they basically make an event almost every
00:24:03 --> 00:24:08 year or maybe twice a year. And the actor, the
00:24:08 --> 00:24:11 creator, comes and you know he shares with the
00:24:11 --> 00:24:14 people in the cinema after the movie before the
00:24:14 --> 00:24:16 movie I think he even watches the movie with
00:24:16 --> 00:24:19 them but the fact that that movie some people
00:24:19 --> 00:24:22 have that movie physically I don't think that's
00:24:22 --> 00:24:25 a movie that a lot of companies are gonna take
00:24:25 --> 00:24:28 the risk of preserving or upgrading to 4k if
00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 it's even possible to be honest if that's the
00:24:31 --> 00:24:35 case I wouldn't mind at least collecting it just
00:24:35 --> 00:24:38 to like have a part of that history of probably
00:24:38 --> 00:24:40 one of the worst films ever made but if we're
00:24:40 --> 00:24:44 going by oh this film is the worst or this movie
00:24:44 --> 00:24:46 is the best and that's how you know like you
00:24:46 --> 00:24:49 said that's how we're preserving things i'm like
00:24:49 --> 00:24:51 i don't know then why do we why did we preserve
00:24:51 --> 00:24:54 solo you know it is i like it it's not a horrible
00:24:54 --> 00:24:56 movie but it's a movie that is not for everyone
00:24:56 --> 00:24:59 you know that movie is not for everyone and i'm
00:24:59 --> 00:25:00 pretty sure that a lot of people who who collect
00:25:00 --> 00:25:04 physical media don't want it because it's not
00:25:04 --> 00:25:07 a very well It's not a known film for being good,
00:25:08 --> 00:25:11 or it's not a film known for, you know, being
00:25:11 --> 00:25:14 entertaining. You know, they're collecting physical
00:25:14 --> 00:25:17 media to be entertained. And I mean, unless you're
00:25:17 --> 00:25:20 into some, I don't know, never mind. Keep a safe
00:25:20 --> 00:25:21 word, because that movie should not be talked
00:25:21 --> 00:25:24 about at all. But it's still a movie that you
00:25:24 --> 00:25:27 should see because if you're watching it from
00:25:27 --> 00:25:32 a perspective of this is, this is a time in history
00:25:32 --> 00:25:35 and this stuff. kind of still repeats itself.
00:25:36 --> 00:25:38 You watch it with that mentality. You're like,
00:25:38 --> 00:25:41 yeah, no, this is a very important film. I meant
00:25:41 --> 00:25:43 the 400 blows. I loved the 400 blows. Oh, 400
00:25:43 --> 00:25:45 blows is so good. Like one of the final shots.
00:25:46 --> 00:25:48 Yeah. Hey, cool. They didn't have dollies or
00:25:48 --> 00:25:51 anything. So they got the camera in a shopping
00:25:51 --> 00:25:54 cart and they were running. They were pushing
00:25:54 --> 00:25:57 the cart alongside the kid to get that shot.
00:25:57 --> 00:26:01 Hey, it's really important, but If you say, oh,
00:26:01 --> 00:26:04 hey, have you seen 400 blows to like a regular
00:26:04 --> 00:26:06 person? They're like, I don't know what you're
00:26:06 --> 00:26:09 talking about. Is that a new Marvel movie? Is
00:26:09 --> 00:26:12 that the new Dragon Ball Z movie? No, it's not,
00:26:12 --> 00:26:15 but they have no way of knowing. There's another
00:26:15 --> 00:26:19 French film, Au revoir les enfants, Goodbye to
00:26:19 --> 00:26:23 the Children. That was a blind buy for me. It's
00:26:23 --> 00:26:25 such a beautiful film as a Jewish kid becomes
00:26:25 --> 00:26:28 friends with a non -Jewish kid. And then I don't
00:26:28 --> 00:26:31 want to... spoil anything. Their friendship is
00:26:31 --> 00:26:33 a little rocky at the beginning. And then they,
00:26:33 --> 00:26:36 you know, when he finds out he's being searched,
00:26:37 --> 00:26:38 they're searching for them and stuff like that.
00:26:39 --> 00:26:41 And then you have some people there that are
00:26:41 --> 00:26:43 a little bit untrustworthy. It's such a hard
00:26:43 --> 00:26:46 film to watch, especially in these times. And
00:26:46 --> 00:26:49 I play it at least once or twice a year. The
00:26:49 --> 00:26:52 same thing with La Haine. Like I love that film.
00:26:52 --> 00:26:55 I mean, I think French cinema is so... amazing.
00:26:55 --> 00:26:57 And most of it I've discovered through physical
00:26:57 --> 00:27:01 media because I can't put the iron over here
00:27:01 --> 00:27:03 on Netflix. I don't think it's there. I don't
00:27:03 --> 00:27:05 think it's on streaming, period. Discovering
00:27:05 --> 00:27:09 all these films through DVDs and I still buy
00:27:09 --> 00:27:13 DVDs no matter what people say. And you know,
00:27:13 --> 00:27:16 blu -ray and stuff is so different than just
00:27:16 --> 00:27:18 trying to search. Oh, I want to learn about French
00:27:18 --> 00:27:21 New Wave or just French cinema in general. You
00:27:21 --> 00:27:26 can't just put that on Netflix. One of my favorite
00:27:26 --> 00:27:28 films that I've ever seen is called Children
00:27:28 --> 00:27:32 of Heaven. It's an Iranian film. It's really,
00:27:32 --> 00:27:36 really good. There's no way that Netflix is going
00:27:36 --> 00:27:40 to have Children of Heaven on its platform. They're
00:27:40 --> 00:27:43 just not. And the only reason that I saw it,
00:27:43 --> 00:27:45 I think, is because my film teacher in high school
00:27:45 --> 00:27:53 had a DVD of it. Jessica's Iranian film doesn't
00:27:53 --> 00:27:56 mean that it's not worthy of like recognition
00:27:56 --> 00:28:01 and also preservation and The thing is every
00:28:01 --> 00:28:05 movie is someone's favorite movie It doesn't
00:28:05 --> 00:28:07 it doesn't matter what movie it is Every movie
00:28:07 --> 00:28:10 is someone's favorite movie and if that person
00:28:10 --> 00:28:14 goes on to make another movie We have a vested
00:28:14 --> 00:28:18 interest in preserving the first movie, right?
00:28:18 --> 00:28:23 Hey this person really loved Morbius why they
00:28:23 --> 00:28:27 went on they went on to make like a whole new
00:28:27 --> 00:28:30 platform and yada yada yada this is the new Christopher
00:28:30 --> 00:28:34 Nolan and his favorite film was Morbius well
00:28:34 --> 00:28:36 now we got to preserve Morbius unfortunately
00:28:36 --> 00:28:39 I bought that and my partner was like wait why
00:28:39 --> 00:28:41 did you buy this I'm like oh I thought you liked
00:28:41 --> 00:28:44 Morbius since I know that that's a joke but um
00:28:44 --> 00:28:47 When they were talking about Marvius and they
00:28:47 --> 00:28:48 were like, oh, this is, this film is so great.
00:28:49 --> 00:28:50 I watched it on the plane. I was entertained
00:28:50 --> 00:28:53 and other people were like, oh, this movie is,
00:28:53 --> 00:28:54 it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. And I'm
00:28:54 --> 00:28:56 like, oh, so let me, I never seen it. Is that
00:28:56 --> 00:28:58 my, so I bought it and I watched it. I was like,
00:28:58 --> 00:29:00 why do people like this film? This is like a
00:29:00 --> 00:29:02 horrible film, but I don't mind selling it. I
00:29:02 --> 00:29:05 don't mind, you know, um, exchanging it for store
00:29:05 --> 00:29:08 credit or something, but yeah, no, some people,
00:29:08 --> 00:29:11 some films just need to be preserved for us to
00:29:11 --> 00:29:16 keep the humor alive. Even bad media should be
00:29:16 --> 00:29:18 preserved. I don't care if you wrote the worst
00:29:18 --> 00:29:22 book ever. So long as it's not AI. Sure, you
00:29:22 --> 00:29:25 wrote a book. It should still be preserved. I
00:29:25 --> 00:29:26 don't know if it's going to be in a library,
00:29:26 --> 00:29:30 but the stuff that people make should not be
00:29:30 --> 00:29:34 lost to time. I know enough about history to
00:29:34 --> 00:29:37 know that we lost. We've lost a lot of stuff
00:29:37 --> 00:29:38 over the years because people just didn't really
00:29:38 --> 00:29:42 care. I mean, Library of Alexandria is actually
00:29:42 --> 00:29:48 not as bad as people think. But it was all copies
00:29:48 --> 00:29:51 of other works. People came to Alexandria, people
00:29:51 --> 00:29:53 be like, yo, can I copy that book on your boat?
00:29:53 --> 00:29:57 And then they copied the book. It was a library
00:29:57 --> 00:30:00 full of copies. So we didn't really lose everything.
00:30:02 --> 00:30:04 But hey, stuff like that's still important. And
00:30:04 --> 00:30:07 having all that to look back on is helpful for
00:30:07 --> 00:30:11 historians and helpful for just students in general.
00:30:11 --> 00:30:13 Morbius should be preserved so people can watch,
00:30:13 --> 00:30:16 so kids can watch Morbius and be like, why is
00:30:16 --> 00:30:19 this movie bad? They need, the kids need to know.
00:30:19 --> 00:30:21 They need the context of why the movie is bad.
00:30:22 --> 00:30:23 Exactly, because historical context is really
00:30:23 --> 00:30:26 important. Not just when you are a historian,
00:30:26 --> 00:30:30 but also when you're a creator. Hey, if I wanted
00:30:30 --> 00:30:32 to make something that harkens back to French
00:30:32 --> 00:30:35 new wave cinema, I would need to watch a bunch
00:30:35 --> 00:30:38 of French new wave stuff. It's not just 400 blows.
00:30:39 --> 00:30:42 There's a lot of other stuff. in that time period
00:30:42 --> 00:30:45 and just because I only remember the name of
00:30:45 --> 00:30:48 the 400 blows doesn't mean that it's the only
00:30:48 --> 00:30:51 one that matters. You have John Luke Godard and
00:30:51 --> 00:30:56 one of my friends swears by him and I try to
00:30:56 --> 00:31:00 watch his films I have most of his films why
00:31:00 --> 00:31:03 don't ask but I just keep buying them and I'll
00:31:03 --> 00:31:05 say maybe I'll like this one nope maybe I'll
00:31:05 --> 00:31:08 like this other one nope It's just, there's something,
00:31:08 --> 00:31:10 I feel like he can't focus, regardless, it's
00:31:10 --> 00:31:12 not a review on John Luke. But the point is that
00:31:12 --> 00:31:14 even if I don't like John Luke Godard films,
00:31:14 --> 00:31:17 my friend does. And I can see why he likes them.
00:31:17 --> 00:31:19 My favorite film, four of my favorite films,
00:31:20 --> 00:31:22 Scream, The Silence of the Lambs, As Good as
00:31:22 --> 00:31:24 It Gets, and Eyes Wide Shut. Total different
00:31:24 --> 00:31:27 variety. But I can tell you why I love each one
00:31:27 --> 00:31:30 and why they all fit together and it composes,
00:31:30 --> 00:31:32 you know, it makes me, you know, who I am. I'm
00:31:32 --> 00:31:34 not saying I'm going to parties. wearing masks,
00:31:34 --> 00:31:37 but the, the, the psychology behind that, I loved
00:31:37 --> 00:31:40 it. And the thing is that I can understand why
00:31:40 --> 00:31:42 he loves John Luke Goddard. I forgot the title
00:31:42 --> 00:31:45 of the films right now, but I, they're fun. They
00:31:45 --> 00:31:49 feel young and I can see that he's that type
00:31:49 --> 00:31:52 of person. He's a photographer. And I'm like,
00:31:52 --> 00:31:56 yeah, they fit your personality. Maybe that John
00:31:56 --> 00:32:00 Luke Goddard film is more because my personality
00:32:00 --> 00:32:04 aligns with it. I like them. Meanwhile, I could
00:32:04 --> 00:32:08 just go and watch Vagabond and maybe feel more
00:32:08 --> 00:32:10 comfortable with that one, even though it's also
00:32:10 --> 00:32:12 a little bit of a depressing film. You pick and
00:32:12 --> 00:32:15 choose what films identify with you. And again,
00:32:15 --> 00:32:17 discovering them through physical media. Cause
00:32:17 --> 00:32:19 again, most of my John Doe good art, I don't
00:32:19 --> 00:32:22 know if they have them on streaming. No. And
00:32:22 --> 00:32:24 that's a problem with if you only do digital
00:32:24 --> 00:32:29 media is you are relying on these giant corporations
00:32:29 --> 00:32:33 to determine what you are allowed to watch. Oh,
00:32:33 --> 00:32:36 man. Yeah, there's tons of stuff. But what about
00:32:36 --> 00:32:38 the stuff that they actively don't want on the
00:32:38 --> 00:32:41 platform? Because you know that there are Sony
00:32:41 --> 00:32:44 executives. There are Netflix executives that
00:32:44 --> 00:32:47 are saying, hey, I don't want this on the platform.
00:32:47 --> 00:32:51 It's not representative of our values. And when
00:32:51 --> 00:32:53 you when they say stuff like that, you should
00:32:53 --> 00:32:56 be interested in what they are trying to keep
00:32:56 --> 00:32:59 from you. And if you have physical media, you
00:32:59 --> 00:33:02 are not restrained by them. Yeah, right now.
00:33:02 --> 00:33:04 some of the stuff that when you said you wanted
00:33:04 --> 00:33:09 to talk about loss media as well. And right now
00:33:09 --> 00:33:11 that we're talking about that, like I said, the
00:33:11 --> 00:33:13 room could be one that could just disappear out
00:33:13 --> 00:33:16 of nowhere. And I think London after midnight,
00:33:16 --> 00:33:18 somebody mentioned, oh, I want to collect all
00:33:18 --> 00:33:21 the films in the world. Impossible. I feel them
00:33:21 --> 00:33:24 have burned out from was it nitrogen that they
00:33:24 --> 00:33:26 use on the film or whatever. London after midnight
00:33:26 --> 00:33:28 is one of them. Everybody wants to watch that
00:33:28 --> 00:33:31 film. Why? Because it's impossible to find. Now
00:33:31 --> 00:33:32 everybody wants to watch it. So guess what? If
00:33:32 --> 00:33:35 somebody can copy, not copy paste, but like restore
00:33:35 --> 00:33:39 tiny little bits of it to restore that film,
00:33:39 --> 00:33:40 then yeah, that film is going to sell out. The
00:33:40 --> 00:33:42 physical format of the film is going to sell
00:33:42 --> 00:33:45 out. Right now it's Criterion Month and I've
00:33:45 --> 00:33:47 been doing a lot, a few episodes and I'm working
00:33:47 --> 00:33:50 on a few topics for the Criterion Month is because
00:33:50 --> 00:33:52 of the alternative cuts. Number one, that's something
00:33:52 --> 00:33:55 you want to have. I love Kubrick. He's one of
00:33:55 --> 00:33:58 my favorite directors. I love all his films.
00:33:58 --> 00:34:02 Not a lot of people do and that's fine. But right
00:34:02 --> 00:34:06 now you have some Kubrick films that have versions
00:34:06 --> 00:34:09 that people have not seen. We could not have
00:34:09 --> 00:34:12 those versions here in the U .S. because they
00:34:12 --> 00:34:15 were not allowed. They were banned. And Cartoon
00:34:15 --> 00:34:17 has the UK version of Eyes Wide Shut. Great.
00:34:17 --> 00:34:20 That's one of my favorite films. Is it better
00:34:20 --> 00:34:23 than? No, it's not. It's just as good. But the
00:34:23 --> 00:34:26 thing is like at least I have access now to that
00:34:26 --> 00:34:29 version that I never had. You know, I saw Ice
00:34:29 --> 00:34:31 White shot in theaters and my friend was there
00:34:31 --> 00:34:34 for different reasons than me. He only won because
00:34:34 --> 00:34:36 he saw the trailer. I won because I know Kubrick.
00:34:36 --> 00:34:39 And I was mind blown. He was mind blown, but
00:34:39 --> 00:34:42 we were mind blown for different reasons. And
00:34:42 --> 00:34:44 I came out of that movie. I was like, yeah, no,
00:34:44 --> 00:34:46 there's no way that any other film is going to
00:34:46 --> 00:34:49 beat this one. Most of my favorite films are
00:34:49 --> 00:34:53 like, from before 2005, I guess. Uh, so that
00:34:53 --> 00:34:55 kind of, you know, also adds up at least for
00:34:55 --> 00:34:58 TV. When you mentioned TV, you have the TV edits.
00:34:58 --> 00:35:01 You have, I don't know how many edits Seinfeld
00:35:01 --> 00:35:03 has. That's a very cool classic. I'm not a fan
00:35:03 --> 00:35:06 of Seinfeld, but again, I have friends who are,
00:35:06 --> 00:35:08 and I try to watch it and I'm like, it's not
00:35:08 --> 00:35:11 for me. You have the bonus features and director
00:35:11 --> 00:35:14 commentaries. You got regional releases. Like
00:35:14 --> 00:35:18 I said, Ice White Shot has a UK version and Again
00:35:18 --> 00:35:20 bringing it back to like the silent films that
00:35:20 --> 00:35:23 completely disappeared Some of them are still
00:35:23 --> 00:35:26 you know, I walk with a zombie. It's probably
00:35:26 --> 00:35:27 one of the first zombie movies. I believe it
00:35:27 --> 00:35:32 was 1930s 1940s and a lot of people that love
00:35:32 --> 00:35:35 zombie movies don't know of that film and I might
00:35:35 --> 00:35:37 some or the best way to discover it is through
00:35:37 --> 00:35:41 the criterion collection which they have it I
00:35:41 --> 00:35:43 don't think I've seen that film outside of the
00:35:43 --> 00:35:46 criterion film to be honest and I'm not defending
00:35:46 --> 00:35:49 Criterion because I got my thoughts on them as
00:35:49 --> 00:35:51 well. But the fact that they're probably one
00:35:51 --> 00:35:53 of the biggest companies, at least here in the
00:35:53 --> 00:35:56 US, who, because a lot of their stuff is also
00:35:56 --> 00:35:59 from Studio Canal and they just paste the Criterion
00:35:59 --> 00:36:01 logo or Coruscant and they just paste the Criterion
00:36:01 --> 00:36:06 logo. But at least they take the time to preserve
00:36:06 --> 00:36:08 all those films that could have been dead. But
00:36:08 --> 00:36:12 I don't think that through Netflix or again,
00:36:12 --> 00:36:15 we're not badging on Netflix. But Amazon or whoever
00:36:15 --> 00:36:18 you stream with, I don't think you're going to
00:36:18 --> 00:36:20 be sitting there for seven hours going through
00:36:20 --> 00:36:22 all their film catalog. It's impossible. And
00:36:22 --> 00:36:25 there's also something we said about censorship,
00:36:25 --> 00:36:29 right? Say that, uh, you know, the CEO of Disney
00:36:29 --> 00:36:34 decides, actually, I don't like gay people. And
00:36:34 --> 00:36:37 he removes all of the queer films from Disney
00:36:37 --> 00:36:42 plus. What are you going to do about that? You
00:36:42 --> 00:36:45 can't do anything about that if you are only
00:36:45 --> 00:36:49 relying on streaming or digital media I'm a bisexual
00:36:49 --> 00:36:54 man. I you know enjoy various kinds of queer
00:36:54 --> 00:36:58 film a lot of those are not necessarily people's
00:36:58 --> 00:37:01 favorite thing to have on their platform and
00:37:01 --> 00:37:05 With the rise of the alt -right, you know all
00:37:05 --> 00:37:08 across the world. We're seeing pushback against
00:37:08 --> 00:37:11 that kind of content So, again, having physical
00:37:11 --> 00:37:14 media is also important for that reason because,
00:37:14 --> 00:37:16 hey, if someone decides politically, actually,
00:37:17 --> 00:37:19 I don't like this anymore. I'm going to get rid
00:37:19 --> 00:37:22 of all of it. No, you're not allowed to watch,
00:37:22 --> 00:37:25 but I'm a cheerleader anymore. I'm going to wipe
00:37:25 --> 00:37:28 it from my service. Hey, people should still
00:37:28 --> 00:37:32 be able to have copies of that movie, you know?
00:37:32 --> 00:37:34 If they ban every movie that isn't appropriate,
00:37:34 --> 00:37:37 I think that I would be left with... Probably
00:37:37 --> 00:37:39 just my Disney. Oh, no, those will be gone too
00:37:39 --> 00:37:41 because Pocahontas and if it's inappropriate,
00:37:41 --> 00:37:45 but it's just like Pocahontas is woke now. No,
00:37:45 --> 00:37:48 yeah Pocahontas the Emperor's new groove I guess
00:37:48 --> 00:37:51 is you know racist because you know, you have
00:37:51 --> 00:37:54 David Spade being a what is it Chilean Peruvian?
00:37:55 --> 00:37:56 So, you know, there's always gonna be remember
00:37:56 --> 00:38:00 The main character dresses up as a woman. There
00:38:00 --> 00:38:04 we go. You know, they're pushing drag And I'm
00:38:04 --> 00:38:06 like, come on, I grew up with Spongebob, you
00:38:06 --> 00:38:08 know, and to quote Whoopi Goldberg here, because
00:38:08 --> 00:38:10 I always have to go out and go back to Whoopi
00:38:10 --> 00:38:12 or Robin Williams. Actually, as a matter of fact,
00:38:12 --> 00:38:16 like, sorry for this small tangent. If we were
00:38:16 --> 00:38:19 talking about censorship today and not just from
00:38:19 --> 00:38:21 the right or, you know, also from the left of
00:38:21 --> 00:38:23 my Robin, William would not have a career because
00:38:23 --> 00:38:25 he would call out anybody. And he was always
00:38:25 --> 00:38:29 on the right side of history, but you could be
00:38:29 --> 00:38:31 on the right side and call things out. and still
00:38:31 --> 00:38:34 be canceled. But Whoopi Goldberg said it best.
00:38:34 --> 00:38:37 You're attacking SpongeBob, a sponge. He has
00:38:37 --> 00:38:41 no genitalia. And you're attacking him for being
00:38:41 --> 00:38:45 gay or bisexual. He's a sponge. And I love John
00:38:45 --> 00:38:49 Waters. I mentioned that I love Pedro Alomar,
00:38:49 --> 00:38:51 that he's one of my favorite directors, but I
00:38:51 --> 00:38:54 love John Waters. And he makes films that are
00:38:54 --> 00:38:57 not suitable for a lot of people, not just for
00:38:57 --> 00:38:59 children, but for a lot of people. Do I think
00:38:59 --> 00:39:03 your children should watch Pink Flamingos? Sure.
00:39:03 --> 00:39:05 Start with Harrisburg first. But my thing is
00:39:05 --> 00:39:12 that he's a very polarizing director. He's done
00:39:12 --> 00:39:15 films that are just pushing the boundaries of
00:39:15 --> 00:39:21 what should do in cinema. And yeah, you can say
00:39:21 --> 00:39:23 that's our house, I guess now, because everything
00:39:23 --> 00:39:27 now is our house. That's camp. That's what...
00:39:26 --> 00:39:29 real cinema, indie cinema really looks like.
00:39:30 --> 00:39:32 You go, you want to make indie cinema? Go study
00:39:32 --> 00:39:35 John Waters. And that budget, what he did with
00:39:35 --> 00:39:37 those budget, that, then you can call yourself
00:39:37 --> 00:39:40 an indie, an indie director, continuing to release
00:39:40 --> 00:39:43 Hairspray and Desperate Living. I haven't been
00:39:43 --> 00:39:45 able to find Desperate Living for a while, at
00:39:45 --> 00:39:47 least like in a good version, because I collect
00:39:47 --> 00:39:50 his films. But again, I just love the fact that
00:39:50 --> 00:39:52 you said like, you know, this is what's suitable
00:39:52 --> 00:39:54 for you. This is not what's suitable for you.
00:39:54 --> 00:39:55 You got to watch what we tell you. I'm like,
00:39:55 --> 00:39:57 that's that's dictatorship. Which is what they
00:39:57 --> 00:40:00 want. Right. It's what advertisers want. Advertisers
00:40:00 --> 00:40:02 want to be able to say, OK, cool. I don't want
00:40:02 --> 00:40:07 capital one to be associated with the gays, TM.
00:40:07 --> 00:40:11 So we're going to cancel whatever we're seeing
00:40:11 --> 00:40:15 that. With like payment processors and such because
00:40:15 --> 00:40:18 there's like a hundred moms in Australia that
00:40:18 --> 00:40:22 are saying actually My kids should not be allowed
00:40:22 --> 00:40:24 to consume this and so they're getting stuff
00:40:24 --> 00:40:26 banned and they're talking to credit card companies
00:40:26 --> 00:40:28 and credit card companies They're like, hey,
00:40:28 --> 00:40:31 you actually can't buy this with your own money
00:40:31 --> 00:40:35 Fiscal media is important for that reason too.
00:40:35 --> 00:40:39 We should not let um Hey, you know what you can't
00:40:39 --> 00:40:43 do online Make a digital purchase with cash.
00:40:45 --> 00:40:48 A payment processor cannot stop a cash transaction
00:40:48 --> 00:40:52 at a movie store. Hey, if I wanted to buy, but
00:40:52 --> 00:40:56 I'm a cheerleader, I can do that with cash and
00:40:56 --> 00:40:59 my credit card company can't deny it. Right?
00:41:00 --> 00:41:02 They could deny it if I tried buying through
00:41:02 --> 00:41:05 PlayStation or something, you know? And that's
00:41:05 --> 00:41:07 another reason why physical media is important
00:41:07 --> 00:41:12 because we shouldn't let a few companies dictate
00:41:12 --> 00:41:16 what is acceptable speech. To add on that part
00:41:16 --> 00:41:22 of cash is, if you're going hard for just pushing
00:41:22 --> 00:41:27 everything has to be digital, but you're kind
00:41:27 --> 00:41:31 of cutting a segment that doesn't have access
00:41:31 --> 00:41:34 to reliable internet, which... We're, we're in
00:41:34 --> 00:41:36 the U S and we, and a lot of people have the
00:41:36 --> 00:41:38 country. So it doesn't have reliable internet.
00:41:39 --> 00:41:43 And how about those people that have no access
00:41:43 --> 00:41:46 whatsoever to internet, but still can go down,
00:41:46 --> 00:41:50 drive three miles, four miles to a mall or another
00:41:50 --> 00:41:53 dying structure. But you go down to a mall, to
00:41:53 --> 00:41:56 a game stop or EB games, whichever one exists
00:41:56 --> 00:41:59 still, and buy a physical film, then drive back
00:41:59 --> 00:42:02 three miles home. They have access through it
00:42:02 --> 00:42:06 physically. that maybe they don't digitally because
00:42:06 --> 00:42:08 they don't have good internet access. You're
00:42:08 --> 00:42:11 literally cutting a whole population, a good
00:42:11 --> 00:42:14 percent of the population. You're basically just
00:42:14 --> 00:42:16 leaving them stranded. Some people can't even
00:42:16 --> 00:42:20 update their games because the, the wifi signal
00:42:20 --> 00:42:25 is not good. Yeah. Day one updates and the amount
00:42:25 --> 00:42:29 of patches that games get. That's a whole other
00:42:29 --> 00:42:32 conversation that I could spend a long time talking
00:42:32 --> 00:42:36 about. And I am going to make a long form video
00:42:36 --> 00:42:39 on it. And I am going to blame all of it on No
00:42:39 --> 00:42:42 Man's Sky. No Man's Sky, great game. It taught
00:42:42 --> 00:42:46 everybody that you can ship a broken game so
00:42:46 --> 00:42:49 long as you promise to fix it later. Jesus Christ.
00:42:50 --> 00:42:53 And that's not great. Yeah, I waited I think
00:42:53 --> 00:42:55 I waited almost and I'm not gonna lie and now
00:42:55 --> 00:42:57 that you brought that I'm like that's why I don't
00:42:57 --> 00:42:59 even turn on my PlayStation anymore every time
00:42:59 --> 00:43:01 I turn it on it's like oh we need an update I'm
00:43:01 --> 00:43:04 like I haven't played in a in a few months or
00:43:04 --> 00:43:06 a year and I finally want to sit down by the
00:43:06 --> 00:43:09 time my Nintendo needed an update I left the
00:43:09 --> 00:43:11 room I left it updated and I came back it was
00:43:11 --> 00:43:14 still updating I started cooking and stuff and
00:43:14 --> 00:43:16 then I forgot my Nintendo was still on five hours
00:43:16 --> 00:43:18 later and I was like oh yeah I wanted to play
00:43:18 --> 00:43:21 Nintendo well not anymore because it was taken
00:43:21 --> 00:43:24 forever to update and one PlayStation game that
00:43:24 --> 00:43:27 I bought it was downloading the game to the PlayStation
00:43:27 --> 00:43:29 I'm like why is it taking three hours my brother
00:43:29 --> 00:43:30 said oh because it's downloading the game I'm
00:43:30 --> 00:43:33 like but this is the game no no that's not the
00:43:33 --> 00:43:36 disc half the time the disc now is just a download
00:43:36 --> 00:43:39 code it's just saying hey cool this this console
00:43:39 --> 00:43:43 can download this thing online Jesus, if my DVDs
00:43:43 --> 00:43:46 did that, I would not be collecting movies. Yeah,
00:43:46 --> 00:43:50 and that's another thing. But with that, Isaac
00:43:50 --> 00:43:53 is a great place to leave off. So, is there anything
00:43:53 --> 00:43:56 else you'd like to leave us with before we say
00:43:56 --> 00:43:59 goodbye to our wonderful audience? Yes, I want
00:43:59 --> 00:44:02 to say, again, protect your physical media if
00:44:02 --> 00:44:05 that belongs to you. Film preservation isn't
00:44:05 --> 00:44:08 just the studio's responsibility, collectors
00:44:08 --> 00:44:10 and gamers, not just because some people don't
00:44:10 --> 00:44:14 collect films. But us as gamers or those who
00:44:14 --> 00:44:18 are gamers is our responsibility really to collect
00:44:18 --> 00:44:21 it, to keep it alive. We got to keep alive our
00:44:21 --> 00:44:23 transfers. We got to keep alive our commentary
00:44:23 --> 00:44:26 tracks. We got to prove to them with our hard
00:44:26 --> 00:44:29 earned dollar that this is what we want. We want
00:44:29 --> 00:44:32 them to keep making physical games. If you're
00:44:32 --> 00:44:35 interested in movies and films and small businesses,
00:44:35 --> 00:44:37 when it comes to films, you can check out my
00:44:37 --> 00:44:40 podcast, the physical cut podcast, or you can
00:44:40 --> 00:44:42 follow me also on the physical cut pod on Instagram.
00:44:42 --> 00:44:44 I'm always ranting there about physical media.
00:44:45 --> 00:44:48 I love supporting small collectors. That was
00:44:48 --> 00:44:51 the whole purpose of my podcast spotlight businesses,
00:44:51 --> 00:44:54 spotlight collectors. And with this news of PlayStation,
00:44:55 --> 00:44:57 it really hit close to home. because again, if
00:44:57 --> 00:45:01 they come for games and I say nothing, when they
00:45:01 --> 00:45:02 come for physical media, there's nobody that
00:45:02 --> 00:45:04 are going to be standing for me because, you
00:45:04 --> 00:45:06 know, at the end of the day, we're going to be
00:45:06 --> 00:45:09 standing alone, but we're a community. And that's
00:45:09 --> 00:45:12 the whole purpose of us support each other. I'm
00:45:12 --> 00:45:14 so grateful for this time, man. I really love
00:45:14 --> 00:45:16 talking to you about this when, when you wanted
00:45:16 --> 00:45:18 to go on a rant with this invite me anytime.
00:45:19 --> 00:45:22 All right. Yeah, with that listener, again, thank
00:45:22 --> 00:45:24 you so much for listening. If you liked this
00:45:24 --> 00:45:27 episode, be sure to go onto YouTube and leave
00:45:27 --> 00:45:30 a comment or a like, or if you're listening on
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00:45:33 --> 00:45:36 basically the only thing Spotify uses to be like,
00:45:36 --> 00:45:40 this might be a good show. And I would like for
00:45:40 --> 00:45:43 this podcast to grow. And wouldn't that be nice?
00:45:43 --> 00:45:45 But yeah, with that, thank you for making it
00:45:45 --> 00:45:47 to the end of the episode and have a great rest
00:45:47 --> 00:45:53 of your day. Thanks for listening to this special
00:45:53 --> 00:45:55 crossover episode. If today's conversation reminded
00:45:55 --> 00:45:59 you why collecting still matters, or even made
00:45:59 --> 00:46:01 you look a little differently at the shelves
00:46:01 --> 00:46:04 of movies in your home, then that's exactly what
00:46:04 --> 00:46:06 the physical cut is all about. Physical media
00:46:06 --> 00:46:09 isn't just about owning films, it's about preserving
00:46:09 --> 00:46:12 them, experiencing them, and making sure they
00:46:12 --> 00:46:14 remain accessible long after licensing deals
00:46:14 --> 00:46:17 and algorithms move on. Don't forget to follow
00:46:17 --> 00:46:20 Super World Jump on Instagram and YouTube. Keep
00:46:20 --> 00:46:23 collecting, keep watching, and remember, where
00:46:23 --> 00:46:25 streaming ends, physical media keeps the story
00:46:25 --> 00:46:27 alive. Thank you so much for listening to this
00:46:27 --> 00:46:30 special episode of The Physical Cut. I will see
00:46:30 --> 00:46:31 you guys next time.